Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:50:37 -0700
From: "Ronald C. Dailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: operamail POP3 interface
On 2001-07-26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Could you let me know the name of the POP3 and SMTP servers so
>as to gain access to operamail?
>Are the port numbers the usual ones: 25 and 110?
>Can they be accessed directly by USER and PASS or do they require a
>special type of authentication?
>Apart from that, does anybody on the list know the same information
>regarding access to Yahoo Mail?
I have Yahoo mail and use Net-Tamer with it. The name of the pop server
is: pop.mail.yahoo.com
The smtp server is: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
In order to get Yahoo mail, you have to sign up via the web, which means
it is similar to the way Operamail works, at least from the description
of Operamail. Once signed up, you can use the POP server to access your
mailbox to collect mail and you can send mail via the smtp server.
Yahoo's security procedures _require_ you to first connect to the pop
server _before_ you can send mail via the smtp server. You have to
enter a user name and password each time, which should help assure that
no one but you can send mail using your name. I know this is true
because I tried going online with Net-Tamer and selecting SMTP from the
online (F2) menu. The Yahoo smtp server denied access to me because I
hadn't logged in via the pop server.
So far as I know the port numbers are the usual ones, since I didn't
alter any port in the mail configuration in Net-Tamer.
_However_, _some_ internet providers _may_ block access to an smtp
server which doesn't belong to them. I now know this because I was
sailing along with no problems using my ISP, cwnet.com, to access Yahoo
mail. Then, all of a sudden, although I was still able to pick up my
mail (receive it), Net-Tamer was giving me a "no contact" message when
it tried to get the Yahoo smtp server to _send_ mail. It would say "no
contact" on one address and then try the "alternate" address and say "no
contact" on that, too.
I finally had to change my setup to use the cwnet.com smtp server
instead in order to send mail. This was per a recommendation in a
boilerplate reply from Yahoo mail tech support when I posted a question
about the problem via their web site. No one at cwnet.com has
specifically said that they have _recently_ blocked access to Yahoo's
smtp server, but they have told me that they have a policy of blocking
"promiscuous" mail servers. I don't believe Yahoo's smtp server should
be called promiscuous, because it can't be used by anyone who hasn't
logged on via the pop server first. However, my opinion doesn't count.
My other ISP, fgn.net, can access the Yahoo smtp server, so it's
obviously specific to the ISP whether the Yahoo smtp server will work
for you. I don't use fgn.net as much anymore because it's very hard to
get on line with them at certain times of the day.
Ronald Dailey
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RCD
Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered
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