On Wednesday 14 March 2012 11:59:48 Vivek Khurana wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Right now you have AIR INDIA, one of the worst airlines, sucking out
> > money. It's imminent "demise" has been abetted by some crooked decisions,
> > but no way could it have survived this far without state patronage and
> > monopoly rights.
>
>  But who screwed AIRINDIA? Workers? No. 
YES YES YES. Pilot strike, ground staff strike, cabin crew strike, sundry 
tender rigging, pilferage of stuff from planes, goods running, third rate 
service. I can go on, but everyone using AI is familiar with these.

>  The political masters of 

Also a part. Who btw are the ones framing the rules.

> AIRINDIA are responsible for the downfall of AIRINDIA. Else how come
> an airline which was posting profits sudden ran into loss. 

Cooking the books is an ancient art. Without public - not government - 
scrutiny - everyone was happy with the fake profits, fat bonuses, and fatter 
contracts.

> Going into 
> details of this would require a thread of its own. But my point is,
> dont give half researched examples.
>
> >> These employees organisation
> >> should force their own version of 'terms of work'. Either the
> >> employers accept those terms or let them close down.
> >
> > Precisely my point, but perhaps not what you have in mind, which is
> > striking work and preventing others less pandered from taking up their
> > seats. If the terms are so rotten, that company wont find competent
> > employees and will shut. In the past labour militancy (alongwith other
> > parallel factors) led to the shutdown of industry. But that was not a
> > disaster, as industries moved to better locations, and new industry with
> > better working conditions replaced them. For a shot while both labour and
> > industrialists were playing holier than thou, before economics forced
> > better sense to prevail.
>
>  You are completely disconnected with the conditions in India. 

Oh really? I could take you on tour in and around mumbai so that we get an 
education.

>  You 
> think if unsuitable terms are offered the organisation will shutdown.
> Maybe in your dream. For man power intensive jobs in India there is no
> dearth manpower. 

Exactly. Which is why the CC workers and others in urban India, who seek to 
convert their priveligies to rights at the expense of everyone else, need a 
boot in the face.

Besides the option of finding cushier jobs, they can always start on their own 
and earn gadzillions.

> If unsuitable work conditions were to shutdown 
> organisation Army would have been the first one to shutdown. But that
> doesnt happen because there is no dearth of people willing to join
> Army. Ditto for Police and several other govt. jobs.

The army, police, and governments are not business.

>
> regards
> Vivek



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JTD
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