Ah... so the term is "piggy-backed." Interesting.

So you recommend the black bearing size. Any particular reason? Any
advice for matching "black" with a letter designation (a-f) on the
parts list?

Thanks for the help!

LZ



On Feb 23, 10:16 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why not split the cases ? You've come so far anyway. The trick is to use 
> plasti-gauge to check your work. #Hint use the black bearings. Yes there is a 
> chart, use the black bearings. Make sure the crank pin is ROUND... use the 
> black bearings. The term is "piggy-backed" to describe that condition. Mike 
> the pin and rod to insure both are ROUND and not misshapen. You should do 
> this job only once. Short-cuts will have you doing it twice. 
>
> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, ZMAN <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: ZMAN <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Crank bearings
> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:48 PM
>
> I need some help with my crank bearings. I am doing a rebuild of a
> salvage motor. Let me preface my question with this: "I know that I
> SHOULD take this motor apart and check everything properly, but I am
> trying to limit my labor time on this."
>
> OK I have the oil pan, cylinder head, cylinder, and pistons all
> pulled. So I am looking at the crankcase with the con-rods moving
> freely. Well, almost. The #3 is a bit to sticky for my liking. So I
> take the rod off (you can get to it through the oil pan opening). I
> put the bearing halves back in the opening of the con-rod and I see
> that the bearing has been warped, because is is out of round with the
> opening of the con-rod. So I want to replace the bearing, of course.
> The con-rod is marked with a 2 and D. The old bearing thickness is
> 0.056" and is marked AK16B. I am looking at my Clymer manual and it
> states that I have to cross reference these markings with markings on
> the end of the crankshaft. The result should be one of 5 bearing
> sizes, and 3 of these sizes will work for a #2 rod and they are
> called: green, brown, or black. "This is great," I said. "I will
> just
> measure the old one and order a new one." The measurement of my old
> bearing is quite a bit less than the thicknesses listed in the book,
> so I know that it is bad.
>
> So let me boil this down to the questions that I have:
>
> 1) How do these color designations transfer to the actual parts? There
> are 5 colors listed in the Clymer, and 6 lettered bearings in the
> parts fiche (A-F)? Does anyone have the thickness specs of the A-F
> bearings (maybe from the Honda shop manual)?
>
> 2) Is the old bearing small and warped because of excessive wear? What
> caused this, and how can I prevent it from happening again? (BTW, the
> crank journal is in very good shape) Should I be looking for a clogged
> oil passage?
>
> 3) How can I establish what size bearing to use without taking the
> case apart? I am having a hard time getting a caliper / micrometer in
> the cylinder hole to get a good read, and my best improvised measuring
> device is no match for the .0001 precision needed here.
>
> 4) Are OEM bearings sold in pairs/matching sets, or do you have to buy
> 2 for each con-rod? I was thinking about maybe trying all 3 sizes
> rated for a #2 con-rod, and using the one that worked the best. This
> would not be fun if I have to buy 2 of each size @ $9 each.
>
> 5) OR......should I just split the cases and stop belly-aching?
>
> Thanks for the advice!
>
> ZMAN
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