Hmmm, that makes sense. I was wondering why both shocks weren't the same. I
didn't know if the swing arm had an internal stop in the hinge or not.
Atleast that was my theory at the time. So if I understand, the swing arm
was relying on the internal stop of only the left shock this whole time?

-Kyle


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:

> Try to follow this, when the bike is on the center stand with the wheel
> hanging, it's suspended from the extended shocks. Remove them and the wheel
> sits on the ground. OK so far ? Both shock assemblies should extend the same
> amount. You're saying that the whole rear end was limited by only one, the
> other could be two inches longer ? Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
> Something is wrong. The swing arm is very rigid and held in place in the
> frame, square. Removing one shock assembly might allow movement of maybe
> 1/4" tops. You don't want to hear this, but I'd take both off and examine
> them. Sometimes we have to remove one and putting it back on might require
> putting a pry bar under the wheel and lifting a little to align the mounts.
> No heroics. I think that you have a broken internal stop. The shock portion
> only extends so far and the spring is retained by the shock. Only pre-load
> adjustments being different might make it more of a chore, and only a
> little.
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/18/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Removing Tires
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 12:03 AM
>
>
> No, when I removed the bottom bolt on my 650 it extended almost 2" and
> wouldn't go back in. The bike was on the center stand at the time and as far
> as I could tell the arm was all the way down from the other spring. I never
> disassembled the shock apart from removing it and the arm didn't appear
> bent, atleast not 2" worth of bent. It'd be nice to drop it out the bottom
> though, my centerstand doesn't give that much clearance ;)
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Dennis Hammerl 
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Kyle, I can understand removing the shock assembly from one side if
>> you're at home. We don't because we work off a lift and drop the wheel out
>> the bottom. But what are you doing that required so much force to re-install
>> it ?  I've had tons of those off and never had to. At rest, both should be
>> the same length and slip right back on. Unless, the trailing arm is twisted
>> / bent. It's very rigid and with one still on, the other should fit right
>> back on. Are you disassembling the shock ? No need to. Just two fasteners.
>> OR, did it come apart when you removed it ? (hint; they shouldn't)  Changing
>> springs is a royal pita.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 9/17/09, Kyle Munz 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Removing Tires
>> To: 
>> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 8:12 PM
>>
>>
>> Yeah, that spring, that's something else...Trying to find a coil
>> compressor small enough for the motorcycle shock was my problem. In the end
>> we ended up using two ratcheting tiedown straps, a rusty bolt, and some
>> exhaust support rod that I think came off of a volvo (pics of this
>> contraption at http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=79). I then used
>> some mondo zip-ties to keep it compressed while I reinstalled it. The second
>> time around I just used the zip ties before removal and it went much easier.
>>
>> You do need to remove the nut to get the drive shaft out, there's also a
>> support for the brake on the right side just under the swing arm, you need
>> to drop that as well as the brake linkage. Also, you don't need to remove
>> the whole shock, just the bottom bolt and it will swing out of the way.
>> There may be more I'm missing since I'm not home to look at it. I just
>> followed the steps in the manual for rear tire removal.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Torry Barker 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've got an 84 650SC, would I need a spring compressor to put the shock
>>> back on? Also did you just remove the center nut to get the drive shaft
>>> assembly out of the wheel?
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:24:21 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Removing Tires
>>>
>>> What kind of bike do you have? On my 650 I had to remove the right shock,
>>> did not have to drain the gear oil. Good idea to change it anyhow while
>>> you're back there and check the brake shoes.
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>> -Sent from Ingleside, TX, United States
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Weston 
>>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I remove my rear tire am I going to need to disconnect the rear
>>>> left shock and drain the gear oil? Or can someone give me a step by
>>>> step of it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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