hey you know everyones says just use3 some carb clean it cost about ten bucks for new gasket needles and jets and a float if its bad enough to need taken apart an cleaned mise well rebuild it
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:32 AM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote: > I know it was for racing, at the time, but I suspect that Honda took > their best racing designs and made their street machines after them. > > ** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 9:15:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > No, that's another story altogether. The small displacement multi's were > still part of the racing program. The opposed four / six came much later as > they invested heavily in the large touring market. > > --- On *Sat, 1/2/10, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 5:58 PM > > Yeah - like the 50cc six cylinder engineering exercise, a machine that > sorta lead to the big six opposed cruiser... > > ** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 3:06:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > Pedestrian motorcycles for the street were of no interest to Honda. The > racing programs at MV Agusta and such did... Stuff we never saw here. > Honda's street bikes are a "trickle down" from development projects. To > justify expenses, they produce a marketable version. All the inline fours > have Italian heritage. The V-twins however, come from a marketing request. > For awhile we thought that Honda was headed in the right direction with the > 600 v-twin Hawk. Maybe, just maybe a Ducati inspiration ? What a neat little > bike ! Fetch big bucks around here. The "Barbie-ceptor" definitely made us > think Ducati. A 250 v-twin with a fairing ? Then there was that pastel color > thing to consider. > > --- On *Sat, 1/2/10, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 3:43 PM > > In Arizona back then, there weren't any Italian twins, just Triumphs; so > the resemblance, which was not accurate with regards to the Triumph and > puzzled me somewhat, now I understand... > I do remember a Ducati single, but it was just a half a Honda engine..And > that's just in retrospect here... > > ** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 2:36:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > There was a vertical twin 650 Yamaha that was almost a clone of a > Triumph. Early Honda's are mostly based on Italian designs. All the way up > to and including the first 750/4. Other noteworthy attempts at cloning those > sorts can be found in the Kawasaki twins W1 and W2. > > --- On *Sat, 1/2/10, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 2:49 PM > > I was not referring to the top speed: in circuit races, the Norton > wasn't as fast as the Triumph, but handled better. An experienced rider > could beat a Trump because of the handling. > Straightaway, yes, the Trump was faster. But we're talking back when > Norton was a 500cc, and Triumph - well, I don't remember exactly the > displacement, but I think it was 650. It didn't have the handling of the > Norton back then. > The new ones built since the "re-birth" handle better and have fewer > problems with the electrics. If you recall, the workers, after they > out-priced the bike with the amount they extracted in labor, tried to make a > go of it, and still could not, so there were no more Triumphs for a good > while. Norton, on the other hand, never came back. > I used to wonder about the resemblance of early twin Hondas to Triumph... > > ** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Kim Paddock <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 12:30:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > Really? I never heard of a Norton Bonneville. Condensed history of the > Triumph Bonneveille: September 1955: Johnny Allen sets the record with a > two-way average speed of 193.3 MPH. September 1956: Johnny Allen takes back > the record with a two way average speed of 214.17 (and NOT from a norton). > 1962: Bill Johnson sets a record with a two way average speed of 230.269 > MPH. 1966: Bob Leppan sets a record with a two way average speed of 245.66 > MPH (albeit he used two 650 Bonneville engines to accomplish this). For the > next few years Triumph fitted the Bonneville Roadsters with "World's Fastest > Motorcycle" stickers. I love a good debate...send me something....I know you > will ;) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 9:38:16 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > The Bonneville 650 may have been fast, but the Norton handled much better > and could beat it in races. Some of them liked to put a 650 engine in a > Norton frame over there for the races... > > *Stanley* > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, January 2, 2010 12:45:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update > > by the name of John Britten ... > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > > Yes, but that was a kiwi pushing it that fast. > > -Kyle > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Kim Paddock <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let's see...they both drive on the wrong side of the road, so that's not >> it...their bikes are backwards too so that's not it...Oh Yeah! The British >> actually made a bike that held records for speed at the salt flats! Triumph >> "Bonneville" 650! >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Graham Rogers <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Fri, January 1, 2010 9:03:21 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update >> >> does anyone know the difference between the English and the British...? >> On Jan 1, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Kim Paddock wrote: >> >> O.K Dennis....please do tell...I want to know if the English are more >> clever than the British.. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thu, December 31, 2009 10:53:38 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update >> >> Gee, are cables for that still available ? I haven't checked in a long >> time. Scuffing on the jackets is not a problem. There is a really neat >> method used by the English to lube cables. I can write it out if you want to >> know. >> >> --- On *Thu, 12/31/09, NghthwkLvr (NL) <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: NghthwkLvr (NL) <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaning 101 - 31DEC09 Update >> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 4:04 PM >> >> hello group....and happy new year to all of you... >> >> just wanted to update you on my carb cleaning project...almost >> finished and ready to reinstall...need to get them in before mlk day >> (jan.18) because i go back to being a full time student on the >> nineteenth...so with that said... >> >> as of today I have them set out in an upright position with a fuel >> supply, checking for leaks...as suggested by Dennis.... >> >> internally, i have done all the necessary cleaning, unclogging and >> deglazing and they are looking pretty sparkly and shiny...on the >> inside.... >> >> the external housing is a different matter though...there are a lot of >> little crooks and crevices that I just can't get to to degrime....I am >> planning on using compressed air, engine degreaser, pressurized water, >> and wd-40 to try to take care of the external cleaning...HOWEVER... >> >> I read somewhere on the web, that soaking the carbs in boiling lemon >> water for about 20 minutes would externally clean them right >> up....so...what do y'all think....would y'all recommend this method or >> not....would/could anything get damaged by this method? >> >> second, I was setting the carb assembly upright to check for leaks and >> kinda noticed that the throttle cables are a bit on the worn >> side...looks like they're the originals from back in 1984...so should/ >> can I go ahead and replace them or just give them a good cable >> cleaning/lubricating? >> >> any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated....thanks guys! >> >> NghthwkLvr >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk 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