No Prob. I like Kyle's idea of using a heat gun/hair dryer to help with the boots. It'll be tough to get the airbox slid back forwards as well. I think someone posted a picture of using a ratchet strap around the air box to the front of the engine to pull it in.
On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Dustin Mcclure wrote: > That is exactly what I was having a problem with. I could not get the > carbs wedged into place because there was not enough space. Thanks for > the advice. > > On Jan 8, 2:52 pm, James O'Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hmm... >> >> I hook up the throttle cables before sliding the carbs in from the left side >> of the bike. Once down there, I finagle the choke cable into place. >> >> Then roll the bank of carbs up and down while pushing the forward into the >> engine. Be sure the rings that tighten the carbs to the intake are loose. >> the rubber boots that go on the other side of the carbs (from the airbox) go >> in last. You can take the seat off and loosen the two bolts that hold the >> air box in place and slide it back about 1/2" to help. It is these boots >> that are a major PITA. I've gotten better at removing/replacing them, but it >> still takes about 15 minutes for each of the two boots on my 83 650. >> >> Good luck! >> >> On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Dustin Mcclure wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, this is the first time that I have ever removed the carburetors on >>> a motorcycle. I have everything cleaned and now I am trying to get >>> them back on. It took me about an hour and a half to remove the >>> carburetors but it is taking me forever to get them back on. Any tips? >> >>> On Jan 8, 7:26 am, Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I removed the pilot screws and I was able to access 1 of the passages >>>> that is directly under the pilot screw inside of the chamber but there >>>> are also four other holes of the exact same diameter that I could not >>>> reach(they are about an inch further inside of the carb chamber). I >>>> was wondering how I could reach these to clean them out. >> >>>> PO? If you are talking about the guy who sold me the bike I trust >>>> him....he is my brother in-law. I don't think he was giving me any bs. >>>> It is just the very tip of the pilot screw that is broken off and I >>>> can still screw it in all the way if I put enough pressure on it with >>>> my thumb. >> >>>> On Jan 7, 4:29 pm, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> The passages are accessed by removing the pilot screws so it sounds like >>>>> you got them. However if the points of those screws are buggered up they >>>>> won't regulate fuel properly, sound like the PO is full of BS on that one. >>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> >> >>>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:55:53 >>>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> >>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Just started cleaning my carbs >> >>>>> Luckily I watched a few videos on carb cleaning before I started. I >>>>> see that one of the big mistakes people make doing this first time is >>>>> marring the jets do to overtightening. I have a shop manual that tells >>>>> me the proper torque for every screw in the carb I just need to pick >>>>> up a torque wrench before I stick my carbs back on. >> >>>>> So far I have already cleaned all of the float chambers. I pulled out >>>>> the main and slow jets and cleaned them with a guitar string of the >>>>> appropriate width and cleaned the outside with a scotch pad. I made >>>>> sure when I was shooting the carb cleaner through all of the >>>>> passageways that I removed the diaphragms( I just didn't to remove >>>>> these at first because I have heard that if they swell they may >>>>> become unusable). I removed all 4 pilot screws and cleaned them and >>>>> their passageways. I could not however find the passageway that leads >>>>> to the idle circuit passages. Could you tell me where this is? >> >>>>> From what I have seen so far the carburetor is in pretty good shape. >>>>> The inside looked pretty clean and the carb cleaner that I had shot >>>>> through all of the passages with ease. The only problem that I saw was >>>>> that one of the idle screws was broken off at the top but the guy who >>>>> owned the bike before me said that two of the idle screws had been >>>>> like that before and he replaced one(the bike ran fine then). >> >>>>> Thanks for your time. I plan on putting the carbs back on tonight to >>>>> see what happens. Dustin. >> >>>>> On Jan 6, 10:33 pm, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Don't get the carb cleaner on the rubber parts,it pulls the oils from the >>>>>> rubber and makes them brittle, example: the diaphragms you didn't >>>>>> remove.. >>>>>> My experience was that the idle circuit passages are usually what gets >>>>>> clogged, if you look at the engine side of the carburator barrels you >>>>>> will >>>>>> see some small holes (open the butterflies) these are the ones. Though if >>>>>> you have the carbs off the bike anyway you should probably take the time >>>>>> to >>>>>> remove the float bowls and clean the main and slow jets too. The best >>>>>> way to >>>>>> clean these passages is to remove the pilot jet screws (turn in to >>>>>> LIGHTLY SEATED first recording the # turns), and the choke plungers, then >>>>>> alternate shooting carb cleaner with compressed air, until you are >>>>>> satisfied >>>>>> that air/fluid shoots out of all of them equally well. Make sure you wear >>>>>> eye protection as the liquid can get you in the face real easy. If you >>>>>> can't >>>>>> get fluid to squirt out of these holes then you will need to soak the >>>>>> carbs >>>>>> which will require a full tear down, and that is a bit of work. also if >>>>>> you >>>>>> remove them from the bar you will have to completely re-sync them. I >>>>>> have read that cooking them in a crock pot full of pinesol or lemon >>>>>> juice on >>>>>> low, does wonders and won't destroy the rubber/plastic parts, but I have >>>>>> never tried it. >> >>>>>> Oh yea, empty the tank of the old crud gas, clean the petcock (look for >>>>>> rust >>>>>> particles as you may have to clean/seal you're tank), replace any inline >>>>>> filters, get a can of seafoam and run that through you're first tank of >>>>>> fresh fuel, and put in some seafoam/stabil if you are not going to run >>>>>> the >>>>>> bike for more than two weeks. >> >>>>>> Thats my recommendations anyway, Welcome to the group, and post some >>>>>> pictures! >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dustin Mcclure >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>>>>>> I just purchased a 1984 Nighthawk 700S from my brother in-law. I >>>>>>> was aware when I started looking at the bike that it was not running >>>>>>> so I had a friend of my parents, who just happens to be a Honda >>>>>>> motorcycle mechanic, come and look at the bike. He told me it just >>>>>>> sounded like the carbs need to be cleaned. So, last night I removed >>>>>>> and disassembled the carbs(except for the diaphragms) and I just >>>>>>> picked up some carb cleaner today along with a bottle of sea foam. >> >>>>>>> I am not really too much of a mechanic but I understand the >>>>>>> general function of the carburetors. I was just wondering if anyone >>>>>>> would be able to tell me of any specific passageways that get clogged >>>>>>> easier than others on these carbs. Is there anything I should pay >>>>>>> close attention to? The reason I am asking is because the carburetors >>>>>>> are really not all that dirty. >> >>>>>>> A little more information on the bike. When my brother in-law >>>>>>> bought it the bike ran perfectly(that was within the last year and a >>>>>>> half). It seems like it just slowly went down hill until it wouldn't >>>>>>> start. I have already disassembled the petcock on the bike and cleaned >>>>>>> it too. The bike turns over fine it just won't fire up. 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