I've done that too, picked the tip up here on the list and it works great. Cinch it up then tighten it all down and remove the strap. I also took a dremmel to the slots on the frame where the airbox bolts in. That way I can slide it further forward and back.
<http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Photo1435.jpg> -Kyle On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:11 PM, James O'Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > No Prob. > > I like Kyle's idea of using a heat gun/hair dryer to help with the boots. > It'll be tough to get the airbox slid back forwards as well. I think someone > posted a picture of using a ratchet strap around the air box to the front of > the engine to pull it in. > > On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Dustin Mcclure wrote: > > > That is exactly what I was having a problem with. I could not get the > > carbs wedged into place because there was not enough space. Thanks for > > the advice. > > > > On Jan 8, 2:52 pm, James O'Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hmm... > >> > >> I hook up the throttle cables before sliding the carbs in from the left > side of the bike. Once down there, I finagle the choke cable into place. > >> > >> Then roll the bank of carbs up and down while pushing the forward into > the engine. Be sure the rings that tighten the carbs to the intake are > loose. the rubber boots that go on the other side of the carbs (from the > airbox) go in last. You can take the seat off and loosen the two bolts that > hold the air box in place and slide it back about 1/2" to help. It is these > boots that are a major PITA. I've gotten better at removing/replacing them, > but it still takes about 15 minutes for each of the two boots on my 83 650. > >> > >> Good luck! > >> > >> On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Dustin Mcclure wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> So, this is the first time that I have ever removed the carburetors on > >>> a motorcycle. I have everything cleaned and now I am trying to get > >>> them back on. It took me about an hour and a half to remove the > >>> carburetors but it is taking me forever to get them back on. Any tips? > >> > >>> On Jan 8, 7:26 am, Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> I removed the pilot screws and I was able to access 1 of the passages > >>>> that is directly under the pilot screw inside of the chamber but there > >>>> are also four other holes of the exact same diameter that I could not > >>>> reach(they are about an inch further inside of the carb chamber). I > >>>> was wondering how I could reach these to clean them out. > >> > >>>> PO? If you are talking about the guy who sold me the bike I trust > >>>> him....he is my brother in-law. I don't think he was giving me any bs. > >>>> It is just the very tip of the pilot screw that is broken off and I > >>>> can still screw it in all the way if I put enough pressure on it with > >>>> my thumb. > >> > >>>> On Jan 7, 4:29 pm, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>>>> The passages are accessed by removing the pilot screws so it sounds > like you got them. However if the points of those screws are buggered up > they won't regulate fuel properly, sound like the PO is full of BS on that > one. > >>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Dustin Mcclure <[email protected]> > >> > >>>>> Sender: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:55:53 > >>>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > >>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Just started cleaning my carbs > >> > >>>>> Luckily I watched a few videos on carb cleaning before I started. I > >>>>> see that one of the big mistakes people make doing this first time is > >>>>> marring the jets do to overtightening. I have a shop manual that > tells > >>>>> me the proper torque for every screw in the carb I just need to pick > >>>>> up a torque wrench before I stick my carbs back on. > >> > >>>>> So far I have already cleaned all of the float chambers. I pulled out > >>>>> the main and slow jets and cleaned them with a guitar string of the > >>>>> appropriate width and cleaned the outside with a scotch pad. I made > >>>>> sure when I was shooting the carb cleaner through all of the > >>>>> passageways that I removed the diaphragms( I just didn't to remove > >>>>> these at first because I have heard that if they swell they may > >>>>> become unusable). I removed all 4 pilot screws and cleaned them and > >>>>> their passageways. I could not however find the passageway that leads > >>>>> to the idle circuit passages. Could you tell me where this is? > >> > >>>>> From what I have seen so far the carburetor is in pretty good shape. > >>>>> The inside looked pretty clean and the carb cleaner that I had shot > >>>>> through all of the passages with ease. The only problem that I saw > was > >>>>> that one of the idle screws was broken off at the top but the guy who > >>>>> owned the bike before me said that two of the idle screws had been > >>>>> like that before and he replaced one(the bike ran fine then). > >> > >>>>> Thanks for your time. I plan on putting the carbs back on tonight to > >>>>> see what happens. Dustin. > >> > >>>>> On Jan 6, 10:33 pm, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Don't get the carb cleaner on the rubber parts,it pulls the oils > from the > >>>>>> rubber and makes them brittle, example: the diaphragms you didn't > remove.. > >>>>>> My experience was that the idle circuit passages are usually what > gets > >>>>>> clogged, if you look at the engine side of the carburator barrels > you will > >>>>>> see some small holes (open the butterflies) these are the ones. > Though if > >>>>>> you have the carbs off the bike anyway you should probably take the > time to > >>>>>> remove the float bowls and clean the main and slow jets too. The > best way to > >>>>>> clean these passages is to remove the pilot jet screws (turn in to > >>>>>> LIGHTLY SEATED first recording the # turns), and the choke plungers, > then > >>>>>> alternate shooting carb cleaner with compressed air, until you are > satisfied > >>>>>> that air/fluid shoots out of all of them equally well. Make sure you > wear > >>>>>> eye protection as the liquid can get you in the face real easy. If > you can't > >>>>>> get fluid to squirt out of these holes then you will need to soak > the carbs > >>>>>> which will require a full tear down, and that is a bit of work. also > if you > >>>>>> remove them from the bar you will have to completely re-sync them. I > >>>>>> have read that cooking them in a crock pot full of pinesol or lemon > juice on > >>>>>> low, does wonders and won't destroy the rubber/plastic parts, but I > have > >>>>>> never tried it. > >> > >>>>>> Oh yea, empty the tank of the old crud gas, clean the petcock (look > for rust > >>>>>> particles as you may have to clean/seal you're tank), replace any > inline > >>>>>> filters, get a can of seafoam and run that through you're first tank > of > >>>>>> fresh fuel, and put in some seafoam/stabil if you are not going to > run the > >>>>>> bike for more than two weeks. > >> > >>>>>> Thats my recommendations anyway, Welcome to the group, and post some > >>>>>> pictures! > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dustin Mcclure > >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> I just purchased a 1984 Nighthawk 700S from my brother in-law. > I > >>>>>>> was aware when I started looking at the bike that it was not > running > >>>>>>> so I had a friend of my parents, who just happens to be a Honda > >>>>>>> motorcycle mechanic, come and look at the bike. He told me it just > >>>>>>> sounded like the carbs need to be cleaned. So, last night I removed > >>>>>>> and disassembled the carbs(except for the diaphragms) and I just > >>>>>>> picked up some carb cleaner today along with a bottle of sea foam. > >> > >>>>>>> I am not really too much of a mechanic but I understand the > >>>>>>> general function of the carburetors. I was just wondering if anyone > >>>>>>> would be able to tell me of any specific passageways that get > clogged > >>>>>>> easier than others on these carbs. Is there anything I should pay > >>>>>>> close attention to? The reason I am asking is because the > carburetors > >>>>>>> are really not all that dirty. > >> > >>>>>>> A little more information on the bike. When my brother in-law > >>>>>>> bought it the bike ran perfectly(that was within the last year and > a > >>>>>>> half). It seems like it just slowly went down hill until it > wouldn't > >>>>>>> start. I have already disassembled the petcock on the bike and > cleaned > >>>>>>> it too. The bike turns over fine it just won't fire up. 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