Sounds like a good idea for a Range Extended Battery Electric, which I feel
is probably where the auto industry is going to head, for better or worse.

I like the modular idea, especially the ability to add/subtract and
hot-swap battery packs. One of my primary ideas would actually be to devise
a "retrofit" package to hybridize most bikes with minimally invasive common
parts.

The core concept its the use of a "hub" or "internal stator" motor design,
pressed into place of the rear drum brake. This allows for a direct drive
DC design, high torque and the ability to run electric-only for a time.

Rear braking would now be electric, using a variable resistor to determine
braking load, tied to the stock brake pedal. The motor controller's speed
sensor would allow for ABS functionality without additional parts, as a
bonus, and the whole motor assembly shouldn't add more than a pound or two,
tops.

Using this, I'd also downsize the engine, generally by a 1/3 but obviously
dependant on the individual bike. The motor torque added in the bottom end
of the range would allow riders to feel like the engine its much bigger.

I think that both motor and pack should operate at high voltage, preferably
36-72+V. This will allow for smaller, more flexible wires and also provide
a beneficial bump in torque. The pack can still be be charged by a 12V
alternator using the right connections and isolator circuits. High voltage
packs are also better for the controllers, limiting max current flow.

That's it from me for now, when I'm on a proper keyboard I'll add more.

Kurt

On Feb 16, 2012 10:42 AM, "paul annen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> well, my idea was to use as many stock Honda parts as i could, so that i
could market it to honda after. i also want to use a 24v system. this is to
make the charging system easy. motor controller and basic battery set on
the chassis with modular extra batteries in saddle bags and a "trunk" with
the engine and mobile charger (also modular). my engine/mobile charger is
about as simple as it gets, small engine (can offer diffrent engine sets
for gas, diesel, LP.... ) set at a constant rpm coupled to a 24v automotive
alt (yes they make them, mostly for bigger trucks).
>
> the modular thought is that if your daily commute is short enough you
dont need the extra weight (and wear) from the engine and batteries, simply
plug it in to charge, but longer commutes the extra batteries might be
needed, for longer trips you will want to have the engine for "on the road"
charging. yes, while cruising you will probably use more power then the alt
can keep up with, but if you stop every so often (and leave the charging
engine running) you can build charge back up.
>
> my first concept was using standard car batteries, (i was 12, cut me some
slack) now i am thinking that li ion makes a much better choice, but thats
also where the modular design comes in, as battery tech improves, you can
upgrade without scrapping the whole bike.
>
> not that ive spent any time thinking about this at all.. comments
and suggestions are welcome..

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