No I bring up those companies as examples. The government will just indemnify the companies involved in PRISM against any possible damages.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Sorry – I’m confused here. Has someone posted a link to Verizon denying > the allegations posted a couple of days ago?**** > > ** ** > > TBH, I’m sure some organisations will be reconsidering their use of > Verizon services. Or at least doing a risk analysis. Maybe looking to move > to VOIP based services. **** > > ** ** > > OTTOMH I’d be more concerned about data (e.g. contents of email, files > etc.) than metadata, but that’s just a matter of degree.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > [mailto:[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>] > *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link > *Sent:* Friday, 7 June 2013 12:29 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, > through a PRISM darkly**** > > ** ** > > AT&T and Verizon are small businesses? Have consumers and businesses left > them?**** > > ** ** > > Who are you going to turn to if these entities are proved to be lying?**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > But we’re not talking about small or even medium sized businesses here. * > *** > > **** > > Google and Microsoft are behemoths, who would stand to lose billions of > dollars a year in revenue (plus what they’ve staked as their future > business model – cloud computing) if they were found out to be lying about > this. I can imagine they would push back very hard on this type of thing, > and I’m sure they have very effective lobbying/regulator relationship teams. > **** > > **** > > Every single one of their current and future business customers would > leave. Plus they’d be sued out of existence by their shareholders (maybe > not in the US, but I could see overseas shareholders doing so). It’s one > thing to comply with a draconian government law. It’s another thing to lie > to your owners about it.**** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jon Harris > *Sent:* Friday, 7 June 2013 11:58 AM**** > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, > through a PRISM darkly**** > > **** > > Have you ever been in the cross hairs of the USG? They don't take being > told "no" very well and this is from a former US state worker. I have seen > a state agency ask "nicely" and when met with resistance they become very > Borg like. > > Jon > **** > ------------------------------ > > From: > >

