they'll just borrow another 16 trillion to satisfy damages (settlements) :P
Jean-Paul Natola Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:55:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, through a PRISM darkly From: [email protected] To: [email protected] No I bring up those companies as examples. The government will just indemnify the companies involved in PRISM against any possible damages. On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Ken Schaefer wrote: Sorry – I’m confused here. Has someone posted a link to Verizon denying the allegations posted a couple of days ago? TBH, I’m sure some organisations will be reconsidering their use of Verizon services. Or at least doing a risk analysis. Maybe looking to move to VOIP based services. OTTOMH I’d be more concerned about data (e.g. contents of email, files etc.) than metadata, but that’s just a matter of degree. Cheers Ken From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 12:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, through a PRISM darkly AT&T and Verizon are small businesses? Have consumers and businesses left them? Who are you going to turn to if these entities are proved to be lying? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: But we’re not talking about small or even medium sized businesses here. Google and Microsoft are behemoths, who would stand to lose billions of dollars a year in revenue (plus what they’ve staked as their future business model – cloud computing) if they were found out to be lying about this. I can imagine they would push back very hard on this type of thing, and I’m sure they have very effective lobbying/regulator relationship teams. Every single one of their current and future business customers would leave. Plus they’d be sued out of existence by their shareholders (maybe not in the US, but I could see overseas shareholders doing so). It’s one thing to comply with a draconian government law. It’s another thing to lie to your owners about it. Cheers Ken From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Harris Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, through a PRISM darkly Have you ever been in the cross hairs of the USG? They don't take being told "no" very well and this is from a former US state worker. I have seen a state agency ask "nicely" and when met with resistance they become very Borg like. Jon From:
