To borrow a phrase...OOF! I can definitely understand and empathize. I had a an agency "lose" my paycheck for a month once upon a time. Idiots.
Recruiters are in the same basket as used car salesmen for me. At the end of the day though recruiters can be a necessary evil. More and more companies I find like the "try before you buy" contract to hire option. - WJR On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:12 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > I'm sick of them. I went to an office once to start a contract, after > resigning my old one, to find out it was actually an interview. > > I've seen them pull so many stunts it's unbelievable. I'm chasing one > through the courts now for seven thousand pounds of unpaid wages. > > This week I mentioned I might not be able to extend my current contract > unless they could negotiate a bit more remote working, to which the agent > responded "leave it with us and we will try". Imagine my surprise to > receive an email from a contractor friend asking why I had left my position > and if I wanted to meet him for lunch to discuss a handover strategy! > > I would give my right arm for companies to deal with me directly. > Recruitment agents require a new circle of Hell to be put on Satan's next > yearly budget. > > > Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email > RELIABLY > ------------------------------ > *From: * William Robbins <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:04:42 -0500 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette > > BTDT. Recently actually. I had a recruiter lie to me about a contract. > (Found that out later, he was fired, but that didn't help me in the end) > > Recruiter told me, in writing it was a contract to hire position. I got > an email from the client I was working at on a Wednesday that Friday would > be my last day, and to please turn in my badge and equipment. (Nice, huh?) > > When I brought up what I had been led to believe and the sole reason I > left a current FTE position I was told that this was never to be anything > more than a 90 day contract. Which I never would have accepted over my > current FTE position. I've mostly recovered, but as you say I wish > ill-will towards lying recruiters. > > > - WJR > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> There isn't any loyalty around anywhere. I've just spent three hours >> dealing with lying, conniving recruitment agents - they should all be >> exterminated. >> >> Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email >> RELIABLY >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * William Robbins <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:12:47 -0500 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette >> >> My advice: Say nothing to current employers, ever. Especially in a >> situation where they won't commit to converting you to an FTE. >> >> *After* you get an offer, in writing, from new place then you meet with >> your current manager and explain that you had hoped to have been converted >> to an FTE by now, but since they haven't you are left to assume your >> position there is tenuous at best and you have found a new opportunity that >> serves your best interest long term. >> >> 2 weeks is fairly standard IME. Finishing up projects is well >> intentioned and all, but honestly not your responsibility once you've made >> a commitment to the new firm. >> >> I understand your sense of loyalty, but bear in mind they haven't exactly >> been loyal to you. Companies aren't people, no matter what the .gov says. >> Companies look out for no one...IMHO. >> >> >> - WJR >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Don Kuhlman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Morning all. Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the >>> field. >>> >>> Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was >>> supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't happen. >>> However, your contract is extended several times so you are still at the >>> position. it may end in 6 months after being extended 18. The people at >>> the place are really great and the environment is laid back and casual with >>> very low stress. >>> >>> So you keep your options open and along comes what may be a very good >>> opportunity with a large well established place that is insourcing and >>> building a new team right in your preferred geography. It is also a 6 >>> month contract to start out, but the company wants to make it permanent >>> based on all information given. >>> >>> Do you share with your current gig that you are checking into this? >>> >>> Or if you don't share the info, and you get the offer, how do you tell >>> your current gig so as not to burn any bridges? >>> >>> And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within 2 >>> weeks) because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be >>> gone in that time. However, you are working on finishing up projects for >>> the current gig. >>> >>> Any thoughts appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Don K >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

