While it's a nice debate, there's really no way to prove which is better. However, let me ask you this, Steven: If the Microsoft security model is so good, why did it take them so long to make it harder to run as a local admin by default?
-----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that it probably wouldn't be as bad. I'd also suggest that there's a significant anti-MS sentiment that makes it a specific target. Along with the fact that I suspect that gunning for the #1 platform makes extrapolating OS share to virus infection target rate a non-linear exercise. -sc > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:13 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > I started to reply to that remark too, then I had a little debate with myself > whether I could make a good point... given that Macs have had a non-admin > user default for some time, while Microsoft did nothing to encourage users > to not be admins until Vista. > > Certainly if the tables were turned and Macs had 92% of the worldwide > market share, the infection rate of Macs would be much higher than we see > today. But it probably wouldn't be nearly as bad as Windows overall is today. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:00 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > much better than Windows > > I'd suggest that's an ill-drawn conclusion. > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:19 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > Are there any reports out there that show Windows 7 running with UAC > > that its minimizes the infections of spyware. > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > much better than Windows. I am hoping that with Win 7 and their > > requirement to run as admin similar to the Unix model that it will > > help minimize this. Even with users not in admin group in Windows XP, > > Vista I have seen malware get right on and hose a machine. > > Of course with Windows 7 if you make someone a local admin and disable > > the UAC you are back to the XP model of security. > > > > Of all our support requests I would say 40% at least are malware > > related probably higher.. > > > > I see this as an OS security issue not a 3rd party program issue. > > > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tammy [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:11 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > Everyone seems to be having these issues of the rogues slipping through. > > Not just any one AV. > > 70 thousand or so new ones released daily so it is difficult for > > anyone to keep up. > > More explained here by Eric Howes > > > > http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Tammy Stewart > > Malware Removal Specialist > > Sunbelt Software > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
