I'm not Microsoft bashing here, but I would say that Microsoft's way may be (or 
may not be) better than the Macintosh or Linux way of doing security. Claiming 
that market penetration is the _only_ reason Macs/Linux/Commodores are "more 
secure" seems short sighted. Yes, they may be smaller install targets, thus 
less likely to have a virus written for, but we should not then measure their 
security based on their infection rate.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Steven M. Caesare
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wed, 28 Apr 2010
08:19:32 -0700
Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV


> I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that it probably wouldn't be as
> bad.
> 
> I'd also suggest that there's a significant anti-MS sentiment that makes it
> a specific target. Along with the fact that I suspect that gunning for the
> #1 platform makes extrapolating OS share to virus infection target rate a
> non-linear exercise.
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:13 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV
> > 
> > I started to reply to that remark too, then I had a little debate with
> myself
> > whether I could make a good point... given that Macs have had a non-admin
> > user default for some time, while Microsoft did nothing to encourage users
> > to not be admins until Vista.
> > 
> > Certainly if the tables were turned and Macs had 92% of the worldwide
> > market share, the infection rate of Macs would be much higher than we see
> > today.  But it probably wouldn't be nearly as bad as Windows overall is
> today.
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:00 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV
> > 
> > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously
> > > much better than Windows
> > 
> > I'd suggest that's an ill-drawn conclusion.
> > 
> > -sc
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:19 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV
> > >
> > > Are there any reports out there that show Windows 7 running with UAC
> > > that its minimizes the infections of spyware.
> > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously
> > > much better than Windows.  I am hoping that with Win 7 and their
> > > requirement to run as admin similar to the Unix model that it will
> > > help minimize this.  Even with users not in admin group in Windows XP,
> > > Vista I have seen malware get right on and hose a machine.
> > > Of course with Windows 7 if you make someone a local admin and disable
> > > the UAC you are back to the XP model of security.
> > >
> > > Of all our support requests I would say 40% at least are malware
> > > related probably higher..
> > >
> > > I see this as an OS security issue not a 3rd party program issue.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tammy [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:11 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV
> > >
> > > Everyone seems to be having these issues of the rogues slipping through.
> > > Not just any one AV.
> > > 70 thousand or so new ones released daily so it is difficult for
> > > anyone to keep up.
> > > More explained here by Eric Howes
> > >
> > > http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tammy Stewart
> > > Malware Removal Specialist
> > > Sunbelt Software
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > 
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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