Our company is really big on having a BS or Masters degree for upper level 
positions and since I have neither the time or inclination to go back and 
finish school I'm stuck. The option my boss and I are focusing on is creating a 
new position where we can dictate guidelines for the position.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell     (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Sean Martin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...

Yeah, someone didn't think it through when those requirements were added to 
existing employee's transcripts. An MCSE requirement also appeared, and the 
description states the following:

The Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) credential is the premier 
certification for professionals who analyze the business requirements and 
design and implement the infrastructure for business solutions based on the 
Microsoft Windows 2000 platform and Microsoft Windows Server System. 
Implementation responsibilities include installing, configuring, and 
troubleshooting network systems. The MCSE credential is one of the most widely 
recognized technical certifications in the industry. By earning the premier 
MCSE credential, individuals are demonstrating that they have the skills 
necessary to lead organizations in the successful design, implementation, and 
administration of the most advanced Windows operating system and Microsoft 
Windows Server System.

I think they may need to update these requirements. We don't even have any 
Windows 2000 systems any longer. :-)

- Sean


On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:01 AM, My New Display Name for Bob. :) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
An A+?!?! For a senior person?!? I'd run away. I've never had an A+ in my 15 
years nor do I have a current MCanything.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

________________________________
From: Sean Martin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:28 -0900
To: NT System Admin 
Issues<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: Morale killer...

David,

These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's 
acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound like 
I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a similar 
predicament. I've been in the field almost as long as you, and with my current 
employer going on 10 years. I've been told for the past year (or longer) that I 
am more than qualified to be promoted to a Senior Analyst position. On top of 
that, I already have the same level of responsbilities, project load, attend 
the same meetings, etc. as the existing Senior Analysts. However, my manager 
(or their boss) wants to see an updated certification. My MCP, MCP+I and MCSE 
are all from NT4 and my CCA is from Presentation server 4. They'd like to see 
an MCITP level cert. This frustrates me because I'm handling the workload of a 
senior analyst, my vacation requests are scrutinized because of their lack of 
providing cross-training  opportunities leaves me the ony resident "expert" on 
a number of key systems, yet I can't "officially" handle the new title until I 
obtain a new cert. With all of that said, they've clearly outlined to me what 
it will take to be promoted and I have yet to meet those requirements. In the 
end, I have no one else to blame but myself. I'll admit that my family life 
takes presedence over my desire to study. Of course the recent straw that is 
about to break the camels back is the fact that they recently added an A+ cert 
to my list of existing training requirements....but anyway, I digress.

If it's not clear to you what is required to be promoted, ask for 
clarification. If you feel that the requirements don't warrant the results, it 
may be time to start looking for other opportunities.

- Sean
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, David Lum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
vent mode:on
I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied. Talking 
to my boss she feels I am qualified but her boss disagrees - not because I 
don't fit the roles and skill set of a Sr. SE as listed in our job description, 
but because she wants to "see more broad scoped project proposals". Yeah sorry 
that  my evaluation of products used across the enterprise for encrypting our 
laptops (chose PGP), remote access (went with RDS), 3rd party patching 
(Shavlik), and then doing the work of standing up the servers and installing 
configuring, deploying and then handing off of said items all in the last 12 
months isn't broad enough...

"You're really great at what you do and you meet the job description but it's 
not enough, sorry". Some of you guys can relate, right? I've only been doing IT 
professionally for 16 years...and admin-y stuff for 12 of that.

Vent mode: off
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


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