Thanks. Good advice on the track record and presenting in an understandable context, as the director is typically very good when present with information and logic she understands.
I am going to have a follow-up next week to find specifics on what I can do. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 503.548.5229 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Morale killer... I have my original A+ (somewhere) from back when I did on site warranty work for our customer. I use gmail primarily for this and a few other lists. No other reason. As to venting, it was specific and low key. Solicit feedback on what that director means when they say you have lacked the 'enterprise' focus. The wonderful thing about words is they can mean a lot of things. The awful thing about context is that it can be lost of mis-understood when information is conveyed. If this person is normally fair, ask them specifically what they would like to see you focus on to establish this 'Enterprise' track record. It may truly be you have done the work you say you have but failed to present it within a context that the director understands. If that's the case, you have some learning to do. If not, well, choices and an improving economy make risk evaluation fun. And we as a list also can celebrate a new Bob on the list, or a new improved Don as he has evidently upgraded to display as Bob. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:01 PM, My New Display Name for Bob. :) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: An A+?!?! For a senior person?!? I'd run away. I've never had an A+ in my 15 years nor do I have a current MCanything. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Sean Martin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:28 -0900 To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Morale killer... David, These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a similar predicament. I've been in the field almost as long as you, and with my current employer going on 10 years. I've been told for the past year (or longer) that I am more than qualified to be promoted to a Senior Analyst position. On top of that, I already have the same level of responsbilities, project load, attend the same meetings, etc. as the existing Senior Analysts. However, my manager (or their boss) wants to see an updated certification. My MCP, MCP+I and MCSE are all from NT4 and my CCA is from Presentation server 4. They'd like to see an MCITP level cert. This frustrates me because I'm handling the workload of a senior analyst, my vacation requests are scrutinized because of their lack of providing cross-training opportunities leaves me the ony resident "expert" on a number of key systems, yet I can't "officially" handle the new title until I obtain a new cert. With all of that said, they've clearly outlined to me what it will take to be promoted and I have yet to meet those requirements. In the end, I have no one else to blame but myself. I'll admit that my family life takes presedence over my desire to study. Of course the recent straw that is about to break the camels back is the fact that they recently added an A+ cert to my list of existing training requirements....but anyway, I digress. If it's not clear to you what is required to be promoted, ask for clarification. If you feel that the requirements don't warrant the results, it may be time to start looking for other opportunities. - Sean On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, David Lum <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: vent mode:on I asked for a promotion to Sr. Systems Engineer but I have been denied. Talking to my boss she feels I am qualified but her boss disagrees - not because I don't fit the roles and skill set of a Sr. SE as listed in our job description, but because she wants to "see more broad scoped project proposals". Yeah sorry that my evaluation of products used across the enterprise for encrypting our laptops (chose PGP), remote access (went with RDS), 3rd party patching (Shavlik), and then doing the work of standing up the servers and installing configuring, deploying and then handing off of said items all in the last 12 months isn't broad enough... "You're really great at what you do and you meet the job description but it's not enough, sorry". Some of you guys can relate, right? I've only been doing IT professionally for 16 years...and admin-y stuff for 12 of that. 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