Howdy,

I am not sure if speaking to your bank is going to help much because
of the way the push debit payment system works in SA.   Essentially,
when you sign a debit mandate against you account (or they even record
you telephonically stating  that they can collect payment from your
account ) you give the 3rd party (merchant) the right to pretty much
do what they want ( within a monthly maximum amount, if specified).
Your bank is not going to refund you  because unlike other countries
we don't have a direct debit guarantee system in place between the
banks and in effect it is therefore not their problem.    Banks
generally dislike direct debit because they make less money out of it
then with other EFT transactions - with push debit the bank that makes
the money is the one the receives (acquires) the transaction from the
merchant - which is given to them either directly by the merchant
(OAR) or via an independent Payment Service Provider such as Netcash,
CASHFOCUS (ABSA) etc.

Going to the police will also not help because it would be a civil
matter - even though it seems like a criminal one.

Stopping abuse of the push debit payment system requires 2 steps - (1)
to stop your account being debited going forward, and (2) to recover
the money already collected, either by contacting the merchant or if
need be going the legal route with them.

The best way forward is to make a fuss with either the orinating  bank
or Payment Service Provider that acquires the transaction.  You can
usually establish this by looking at the debit transaction.and seeing
the name of the Payment Service Provider.   If you can't establish
this yourself then give it to me and i will try to find out who it is
so you can then complain to them about OAR abusing the debit payment
system - hopefully they will then cut their water off when they have
consumers complain.

My strong advice is never ever sign debit orders or agree verbally to
have your account debited, especially by smaller companies  because
they can then do what they want and your bank will not help you.

Regards
Toby



On Nov 3, 4:07 pm, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> Since I'm a Swedish citizen and not too familiar with the SA law
> enforcement and that I have noticed that not only I have been tricked
> by these fraudsters, perhaps someone would want to share some advice
> on how to go about filing a report with the Woodstock Police.
> OAR have kept on debiting my account, and since they have been very
> friendly all the time I thought they would pay me back my money. 5
> months have passed now and they owe me a nice little amount of money.
> An SA friend of mine have been calling them, emailing them and so have
> I, to no success.
>
> Who is in? What should I keep in mind? Who do I speak to at Woodstock
> Police stasie?
>
> Groete
> Daniel, Salt River (Stockholm for the time being)
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