I am told that statistically, crime stats are lower in areas that have an active and vibrant neighbourhood watch. I didn't ever get the impression that it was about being "pretend police" nor playing cowboys and crooks, but about coming out from behind our electric fences, razor wire and security gates and becoming the extra set of eyes and ears for SAPS and Obsid, helping them to do their jobs better. I have personally seen the combination to be extremely effective. I was pleasantly surprised by the renewed sense of community spirit I enjoyed when I began participating in patrols. Patrols may not be for everybody, in which case there is much opportunity for other contribution within the structure of the ONW. Many hands Stan 3 James STreet
Original email: ----------------- From: Melanie Hoffman [email protected] Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:01:35 +0200 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [obsnw] Lower Obs (other side of the Railways) very concerned ​What exactly are patrols by civilians going to achieve? We live here, we don't want to play "pretend police" by driving around or walking around at night. We pay Obsid, we pay rates. It's Obsid job to put up the freaking horse carts (not just one!) and have professionals deal with the crime. What are you going to do when you see an armed robbery? Interfere? Call the police? The criminals will still get away. With all due respect, the "patrolling" has a slight taste of playing cowboys and robbers for me. These are professional dangerous criminals that need to be dealt with professionally. Neighbours patrolling is not the answer in my opinion. Plus, it's ridiculous that we would even have to do that. Get more horse carts. Put up a makeshift boom for the moment - if its' illegal - who cares, robbing and mugging is double illegal. Make obsid do something for us with our money. Why can't we have a "sting" operation with the police. I'll walk down the road showing my cellphone and carrying a laptop bag. I will surely get mugged, and the police could arrest them on the spot. End of story. Please, not more Obs Neighbourhood Watch meetings, groups, votings, signups and all the rest. It never worked before, because it's just a handful of people who want to do that kind of thing. Plus the ONW covered a large area. Street by street whatsapp works well. We don't need the whole suburb to know our business. It gets too complicated and people simply clash. This is my humble opinion. M Hoffman ​ On 21 June 2015 at 15:16, Robby Balona <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bruno > > Come and join us patrol the sectors. We have a few patrol groups and are > try our best to keep the crime down. Although we are not crime fighters and > are not mandated as the poilce,visibility helps as you have noted with the > horse boxes. > > I like you, also get upset at the fact that we pay every month and feel > that its not helping and this is why we patrol our sectors. The more we all > get involved th3 better > > Let me know if you would like to join us and i can notify when we go out > to patrol. You get to know your neighbourhood as well as ur neighbours > > Regards > > Robby > On 21 Jun 2015 1:36 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Bruno...... >> >> I feel your pain, things are getting bad, and there is only so many >> police and guards available. >> >> I was willing to patrol - (fight the crime), but I was told no guns, so >> sorry man. . . . Hope you come right with more (guards). >> >> Paul >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Bruno Migliorini <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Sun, 21 Jun 2015 00:19:41 -0700 (PDT) >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *[obsnw] Lower Obs (other side of the Railways) very concerned >> >> Hi, >> >> Every house in Obs pays the same amount every month for Improvement >> district. Our side of Obs used to be very quiet and somehow reasonable in >> regards with crimes (a few car break ins, mugging the tunnels under the >> rails). In the past 6 months, things have gone wild over here: stolen cars, >> armed muggings, house break-ins, etc. Our wives and kids are not safe >> anymore! This week only, two armed robberies occurred 20 meters from my >> house, people got guns pointed at them, nearly same place, twice in a week, >> at 6pm! >> >> Since a year, we have hosted the horse box with security during 4 weeks. *That >> is all* in regards with crime prevention in our zone. And it worked >> perfectly well as all went quiet for 4 weeks. >> >> All we get is reactive actions... Wait to face the gun, pray to stay >> alive, but don't worry OBSID will help you fill the paperwork! >> >> I sincerely think OBSID needs to have more power, more patrols, more >> horse boxes, more contribution from the Citizen. In my own case, the past >> six months did cost about 60000 ZAR of stolen goods and windows replaced. >> Hence 10000 ZAR/month!!! I am definitely happy to increase OBSID fee by 100 >> or 200 or 500 Rands to avoid that in the future. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bruno >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room >> >> TEL: 021-447-1066 or 072-063-1653 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> EMERGENCIES: 10111 >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ONW email: [email protected] >> WEB: www.obswatch.org.za >> FACEBOOK: facebook.com/obswatch >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Other Useful Obs Numbers: obs.org.za/obsdir >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send >> email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send >> email to [email protected]. 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