I second that Barbara........we need to make our streets safe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: "Makulu Lodge" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:22:03 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [obsnw] Lower Obs (other side of the Railways) very concerned Hi, I agree with Paddy, I think Obs has improved. Though I dont think the house prices have anything to do with Observatory, rather the fact that other areas close to CBD have got to be stupid prices, so Obs is a good alternative in terms of floor space. This said, crime is an issue, and we need to all get together as a community to look out for crime ourselves. We cant entirely depend on OBSID and the Police. Being good neighbours is also quite a factor. Barbara On 23 June 2015, Patrick Chapple <[email protected]> wrote:> > Thank you Steve, > I share your sense of optimism. As a resident since 1981, I am very positive > about the steps Observatory residents are taking. The Civic is revitalised, > the ONW is back on its feet and the Board of the Obscid made some hard > decisions. We also, finally, have a responsive and effective relationship > with Woodstock SAPS. House prices in Obs were the 4th highest increase growth > in the country! Yes we have crime. Like every other neighbourhood. But we > have a lower crime rate than both Pinelands and Rondebosch. > Paddy Chapple > > From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf OfSteve > Killick > Sent: 22 June 2015 10:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Obsid COO; Johannes Bronkhorst > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Lower Obs (other side of the Railways) very concerned > > Dear Fellow Observants, > > I am writing this in response to numerous concerned posts regarding our > safety and security in Observatory. > > > I have recently taken over as Deputy Chair of ONW and I am now acting as > Chair while Chris Wiehe is overseas for a few months. > > Since ONW was reinstated earlier this year, we have seen especially > encouraging results with the crime situation on Lower Main Road but also > throughout Observatory. Last week at our monthly meeting, our SAPS Sector > Manager reported that in recent months there had been an overall decrease in > reported crime of between 20 to 30% and thanked us for our efforts. He also > noted that its is very helpful for us to feed SAPS information as we have > been doing. Granted, some types of crime (like armed robbery) have been on > the increase of late, but in general in think we are starting to see the > benefits of having an active neighborhood watch and a proactive police force > working together again. > > OBSID has a new incoming COO, Hudson McComb, and a new Public Safety Manager, > Hannes Bronkhorst. Both of these gentlemen are open to new ideas and are > committed to improving our safety and security. There are already some > changes a foot: > - The OPS control center which was previously stationed in Mowbray and shared > with the Groote Schuur Improvement District is to be moving to Station Road > and will now be dedicated to serving Observatory only. > - OBSID is currently evaluating its existing security contract which is > coming up for renewal. This includes the patrollers, horse boxes and camera > systems with a view to improving the service and getting us more value for > money. > > We have had some discussions with OBSID around the security contract issue. > It was agreed that we would engage our membership to see if there is > expertise available within the community to assist in the evaluation process, > identify possible improvements and determine best combination of solutions to > implement. We will meet with OBSID within the coming weeks to review the > existing systems/contracts and to brainstorm new ideas. This is the > opportunity for us to have a say and I would like to call for your assistance > with this: > > 1. If there is anyone with expertise in camera systems, neighborhood > security, security contracts etc that is able to volunteer their time to this > process, please email me a short note on how you think you can assist. > 2. If you have ideas that you feel strongly for or against, please email me > your thoughts so we can raise your point for consideration. > > I realise that this process is not the immediate action we are all looking > for, but I think its an important process to go through if we are to make the > right decisions. In the meantime, I can only appeal to you to get involved in > any way you can towards helping SAPS and OBSID to help us: > - There are ONW meetings each month and all are welcome. > - Membership is free and patrolling is purely voluntary. > - Even if you can't patrol, just by being vigilant and reporting crimes > and/or suspicious behavior through the correct channels has a huge impact. > - There are also a range of other ways you can help aside from patrolling: > Marketing, PR, Finance, Recruiting etc > > > Thanks and regards, > > Steve > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Bruno Migliorini > <<[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Thanks for your valuable input. Here's what I get from the discussions: > - Livelier neighbourhood is great: maybe we can try to creatively think, > based on examples from others, about how to get more people in the streets. > In the meantime, I find patrolling a good idea. However, I work and travel > most of the time and there's only so much time in a day that we can cover > with travelling. Already, our whatsapp group is very lively. > > - OBSID does a good job considering the mean they receive from our > neighbourhoods (calculated based on house values). > > Now... what if we increased their means? I mean horse boxes are nice, they > provide visibility and they work well... By how much would we have to > increase the rates to cover the whole of obs? Basically let OBSID provide the > prevention/visibility and interact with SAPS for the reaction. > > > > > > Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 21:33:10 UTC+2, Stefan a écrit : > Hello Melanie , > > it would be interesting how much it would have to increase it in order to > make OBSID more effective ... perhaps that`s what`s necessary ? > If I think about how much ADT costs per month without being effective like > OBSID ... > > Stefan > > > On 6/21/15 6:22 PM, Rosemary Robins wrote: > > > OBSID has always had a clean audit. We are 2 people in our house - costs us > > approx. R1.60 per day each for all the benefits. Our refuse (once a week) > > costs nearly the same amount. I appreciate there are frustrations with > > OBSID but please be realistic. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 1:08 PM, bluebellsandroses > > <<[email protected]>> wrote: > > I agree totally with Bruno. Also, I don't understand why the current levy > > is apparently not effective to give us more horse carts. What is happening > > with the current money?! Every single household in ons pays via rates. So > > how can there not be enough money? > > > > Melanie > > > > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Bruno Migliorini > > Date:21/06/2015 10:17 AM (GMT+02:00) > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Lower Obs (other side of the Railways) very concerned > > > > Well then, let's change these ineffective and limiting regulations and > > let's try to avoid being killed. One of these days, the bullet will come > > out and it will be too late to react. We pay for security, if we are mugged > > at gunpoint 2 times per week, sorry but it's a fail. > > > > > > > > > > Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 09:54:23 UTC+2, Rose007 a écrit : > > OBSID is bound to adhere to the regulations/laws governing improvement > > districts. They do not have the authority to charge whatever levy they deem > > suitable and their powers are limited. Infringement of any of the > > regulations could have dire consequences. > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Bruno Migliorini <<[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Every house in Obs pays the same amount every month for Improvement > > district. Our side of Obs used to be very quiet and somehow reasonable in > > regards with crimes (a few car break ins, mugging the tunnels under the > > rails). In the past 6 months, things have gone wild over here: stolen cars, > > armed muggings, house break-ins, etc. Our wives and kids are not safe > > anymore! This week only, two armed robberies occurred 20 meters from my > > house, people got guns pointed at them, nearly same place, twice in a week, > > at 6pm! > > > > Since a year, we have hosted the horse box with security during 4 weeks. > > That is all in regards with crime prevention in our zone. And it worked > > perfectly well as all went quiet for 4 weeks. > > > > All we get is reactive actions... Wait to face the gun, pray to stay alive, > > but don't worry OBSID will help you fill the paperwork! > > > > I sincerely think OBSID needs to have more power, more patrols, more horse > > boxes, more contribution from the Citizen. In my own case, the past six > > months did cost about 60000 ZAR of stolen goods and windows replaced. Hence > > 10000 ZAR/month!!! I am definitely happy to increase OBSID fee by 100 or > > 200 or 500 Rands to avoid that in the future. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bruno-- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > OPS [Obsid Public Safety] - 24/7 control room > > > > TEL: 021-447-1066 or 072-063-1653 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > EMERGENCIES: 10111 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ONW email: <[email protected]> > > WEB: <http://www.obswatch.org.za> > > FACEBOOK: <http://facebook.com/obswatch> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Other Useful Obs Numbers: <http://obs.org.za/obsdir> > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > The Observatory Neighbourhood watch group. To post to this group, send > > email to <[email protected]>. To unsubscribe from this group, send > > email to <[email protected]>. 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