It's only an issue on 32 bit operating systems, which only have access 
to a total of 4GB ram max.  On a 64 bit operating system it can address 
a whole lot more memory (I guess about 4 billion times as much), so the 
address space for the memory on the video card need not conflict with 
system memory.

It's amazing how complex constructing a new computer is these days, I 
seem to remember it being a whole lot easier - or it could just be that 
I'm getting old - how do I set the clock on my VCR again?

Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington 



[email protected] wrote:
> hmmm....Ok, I may have been miss-infomred. I thought the reason for a 
> videocard HAVING its own ram is so it didnt use your onboard ram.
> I understood if you had a 256mb vid card built into the M/board then 
> it took 256mb from the system ram, but not if the card had its own 
> ram.....seems to defeat the purpose.....well to me....
>
> Jeremy
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [DUG-Offtopic] 32 bits or 64 bits
>     From: Sean Cross <[email protected]>
>     Date: Wed, October 28, 2009 2:43 pm
>     To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List
>     <[email protected]>
>
>     Not so.  The video card may be using its own ram but it is still
>     blocking your access to the computers ram.  E.g. in my laptop, I
>     have 4gb ram, and a nvidia sli graphics card with 512mb of ram. 
>     Win 64 sees 4gb, win 32 saw about 3.3gb.
>      
>     See
>     
> http://blogs.msdn.com/hiltonl/archive/2007/04/13/the-3gb-not-4gb-ram-problem.aspx
>      
>      
>     Regards
>      
>     Sean Cross
>     CIO
>      
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>     *From:* [email protected]
>     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
>     *[email protected]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 October 2009 2:15 p.m.
>     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List
>     *Subject:* Re: [DUG-Offtopic] 32 bits or 64 bits
>      
>     Only if its a build in video card tho. If you have a nice GForce
>     card thats plugged into your PCIE port with 1gb onboard, its not
>     using system ram, its using its own ram.
>      
>     Jeremy
>
>         -------- Original Message --------
>         Subject: Re: [DUG-Offtopic] 32 bits or 64 bits
>         From: Alister Christie <[email protected]>
>         Date: Wed, October 28, 2009 1:57 pm
>         To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List
>         <[email protected]>
>
>         > 64 bit becomes a benefit (memory wise) above 3 - 3.5 gb
>         depending on
>         your video card. There is not much of a difference performance
>         wise
>         that I have seen.
>
>         Sean makes a good point, this can be a bit of an issue, the
>         memory from
>         your graphics card needs to get mapped somewhere, if you have
>         a 4GB
>         machine with a 1GB graphics card, on a 32-bit O/S you lose 1
>         GB of
>         system memory.
>
>         Alister Christie
>         Computers for People
>         Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>         http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>         PO Box 13085
>         Johnsonville
>         Wellington
>
>
>
>         Sean Cross wrote:
>         >
>         > Your hardware will be 64 bit unless you buy something really
>         cheap and
>         > nasty.
>         >
>         > Windows 64 costs the same as Win 32 (and uses the same key).
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 64 bit becomes a benefit (memory wise) above 3 - 3.5 gb
>         depending on
>         > your video card. There is not much of a difference
>         performance wise
>         > that I have seen.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > I have 2 machines running win 7 64 bit and previously Vista
>         64. No
>         > problems in the past few months.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 8gb ram is fantastic for virtual machines.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Regards
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Sean Cross
>         > CIO
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Catalyst Risk Management
>         > PO Box 230
>         > Napier 4140
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>         > Mobile: 021270 3466
>         >
>         >
>         >
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>         >
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>         >
>         >
>         > *From:* [email protected]
>         > [mailto:[email protected] <#Compose>]
>         *On Behalf Of *PDS - John
>         > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 October 2009 11:46 a.m.
>         > *To:* [email protected]
>         > *Subject:* [DUG-Offtopic] 32 bits or 64 bits
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Hi all
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > I'm looking at buying a new PC. Should I spend more money on
>         a 64 bits
>         > system or would a 32 bits system be adequate for average
>         software
>         > development?
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Any suggestions are welcome as to what to buy and what not to
>         buy.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Thanks a lot.
>         >
>         > John
>         >
>         > 
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