Heh, the important things to note in the message below are:
a) Faust wins.. again.
b) Snow Apes apparently have a secret power of 'Initiate Litigation' that
was missed in the Creature Collection..

Clark, will the webpage have the correct powers for Snow Apes soon?

::reseting the bear trap in the chimney::
-R
----- Original Message -----
From: "LaPierre, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] I'm Game


> "agreeing not to hold advice-givers liable"  OK everyone this is _just an
> example_ I don't think anyone on this list would do this but eventually
> there will be other developers.
>
> 1) Doug wants to create a world using "Free20" and the OGL and "d20".
> 2) He decides that the northern reaches of his world has "Snow Apes".
> 3) Clark misses the email asking for permission.
> 4) Doug complains he doesn't have an answer.
> 5) Martin says "Clark is reasonable, go ahead and use it. He said on the
> list that people can use the names as long as the description and stats
are
> kept the same."
> 6) Clark missed the email because Faust was buying SSS and they were
> celebrating.
> 7) Faust sees his IP on a website with 50,000 hits a day.
> 8) Faust is upset because with all the info already created by visitors
and
> added to the site, he has to scrap his plans to do "The ecology of the
Snow
> Ape".
> 9) He goes after Doug.
> 10) Doug says "I've only got $0.37, but you can have it."
> 11) Doug's lawyer says "Martin duped my client!"
> 12) Doug is found guilty anyway.
> 13) Since Doug didn't have anything, Faust goes after Martin. Faust wasn't
a
> party to the "Free20" agreement.
> 14) Martin is partially culpable.
>
> Now as to having a plain english version: we had that argument most of the
> last two weeks, I don't want to open it again.
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Meerschaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >2) Even with your proposed add-on _you still need to comply with the
OGL_,
> >just because you aren't doing it for profit doesn't mean you can't be
> >involved in legal problems. With or without your add-on.
>
>
> *OF COURSE* we need to use the OGL.  But what Free20 would do is provide a
> consistent entity--see the "Free20" message.  That "agreeing to not hold
> advice-givers liable" is important.
>
> I don't know how LEGAL it is, but it's just a draft.
>
> >No-one on this list is saying "don't do it". We are saying that unless
you
> >are 100% certain of your interpetation of the OGL then you need to get
> >competent legal advice. The people on this list can't risk giving legal
> >advice. And none of us want to see you lose everything.
>
>
> Bob, even Ryan needed legal advice on the OGL.  And, even *with* lawyers,
> people have messed up.
>
> What if, somehow, we *could* give advice on d20 without always saying "I'm
> not a lawyer."  What if there *was* a plain english document that anyone
who
> can read the SRD could read, follow, and not have to worry about getting
> sued?  Free legal advice doesn't make any sense between one business and
> another--but it makes PLENTY of sense for fans and individuals who don't
> stand to profit from the OGL but still want to contribute.
>
>
> DM
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