> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christina
> Stiles
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] I'm Game
>
>
> My intention was not to offend,
And mine was not to bite your head off, though that may have been the
result. I just rankle any time the profit motive and honorable motives are
treated as opposites.
> and I want to make a profit, of course; who
> doesn't? I'm just saying that some of us will be happy with little
profits,
> and would be glad to see everyone succeed with their companies.
As far as I can judge, that's the attitude of pretty much everyone here. I
have not yet seen any D20 producer be anything but supportive of the other
producers. I think they would not be on this list with attitudes like that.
> And, I do thank Ryan and everyone on this list!!! I would just like to
see
> the Open Gaming foundation be a little more about supporting Open Gaming,
> and not just the D20 license--and it is a little hard to accept the
> neutrality position when you work for Wotc, Ryan (but I'm for ya!!!).
I wonder if the communication problem here is in definitions. How do you
define "supporting Open Gaming"? As far as I can tell, that's exactly what
the OGF is doing. From the web site:
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The Open Gaming Foundation believes that a license must provide for two
important features in order to be an Open Game license.
1. The license must allow game rules and materials that use game rules to be
freely copied, modified and distributed.
2. The license must ensure that material distributed using the license
cannot have those permissions restricted in the future.
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> Anyway, A lot of cool ideas could come from the fan sector and small
> presses, but the legal entanglements do scare the hell out of us. It's
> beginning to sound like a person should just go ahead and do whatever he
or
> she wants, though. At least if you are wrong, someone will come by in a
> slap-your-hand manner and let you know. I don't know at what point it
> becomes a sue-your-pants-off manner, however.
According to the OGL:
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13 Termination: This License will terminate automatically if You fail to
comply with all terms herein and fail to cure such breach within 30 days of
becoming aware of the breach. All sublicenses shall survive the termination
of this License.
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So it becomes sue-your-pants-off when you have been notified of a violation
and failed to correct it in 30 days.
> I'd also like to see the OGF
> be a bit more about mentoring in what can and cannot be done, but I
> understand the problems with offering legal advice.
When the OGF exists as more than just Ryan, there may be enough spare energy
to provide some degree of mentoring, in the form of on-line advice, etc.
We'll have to wait to see what happens after Ryan opens it up. But certainly
no legal advice.
Martin L. Shoemaker
Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training
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