On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:
> No, I'm sorry, but you're missing the point. The idea that "advances by
> class" means "humanoid" is simply a convenience to allow one to reach the
> conclusion one wishes to reach, or a prejudice based on answers one knows
> from reading the MM.

        No one is saying that "advances by character class" requires 
human shape.  However, if one is forced to come up with a shape for 
the creature, it seems like a reasonable guess.  Ryan's claim and your 
claim seems to be that the idea of having two arms and two legs is 
*SO* original that no one could possibly come up with it without 
stealing from WotC.  

        I don't buy it.  If you are dead set on arguing this, 
there is a simple test for this which I could try.  I could write 
out the mind flayer entry in plain English and giving it to people 
who aren't D&D players and see what they come up with.  

- John


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