What wizards is clearly saying in this e-mail is that none of their books will be released in draft or provisional form under the "gentleman's agreement" (for example Dieties and Demigods or the Epic Level Handbook). This is information which everyone on this list well aware of or at the very least suspects.
What you seem to be saying is that wizards will not allow any new D20 products to be published using content that is only available via the "gentleman's agreement". That is why everyone (including myself) was so alarmed. The difference between the first assertion and the second is night and day. I think in the future you should eschew the somewhat amorphous term "anything else" in favor of something which more clearly spells out exactly what you mean. __________________ Ross Richey Editor, DireKobold.com We're buying D20 adventures! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bert Knabe Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Still new to the list. Sorry if this appears twice. I sent it once with the wrong email address. On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 06:27 PM, Clark Peterson wrote: >>>> You might want to be careful of using the >>>> 'gentleman's agreement'. I've >>>> seen a private email that says it was a stopgap >>>> measure and they >>>> probably won't be allowing any more material to >> be >>>> produced using it. > > Who posted this initial gossip and are they going to > come back in and back any of this up? > > Clark I posted. Sorry to create such a firestorm. First, I did not say there would definitely be nothing else under the Gentleman's Agreement, I said check before using it. I saw it in an email forwarded to the discussion list of an ezine I work on that is going to do a D20/OGL issue. The editor was communicating with people at WotC to make sure he understood what we could and could not do. Here is the pertinent portion of the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>> 4) (a) All material that has been posted but is not yet officially >>> released is covered under what we call "The Gentleman's Agreement" >>> This >>> agreement says that you may use that material but that you recognize >>> that >>> it may change when it is made official. If that occurs you agree to >>> update >>> any future printings of your product. As a magazine this obviously >>> does >>> not really apply. (b) Only that material that is available at >>> www.opengamingfoundation.org in the SRD section, may be treated in >>> this manner. >> >> OK, great, thanks. > > Just a little more info on this, since I'm also the SRD guy. I do not > believe we have any plans to allow anything else under the "gentleman's > agreement". That was a stopgap measure taken when we fell behind on > updating the SRD. Now that updates are going again nothing is usable > until it is officially entered into the SRD. The remainder of the > unofficial material will be made into official SRD content, then we > will > decide what next to make open. Note that he does not say there definitely will not be anything allowed under the "gentleman's agreement", he said he does not believe anything else will be allowed. So before you spend a great deal of time working on something, ask. a 10 second email isn't going to kill anyone. Bert Knabe -- Always keep in mind that ignorance is curable. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong problem. -- "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 _______________________________________________ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l _______________________________________________ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
