Bert, Its all good. Honest mistake.
You just freaked me out :) Clark --- Bert Knabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the saying that applies (to me) here is > "It is better to keep > your mouth shut and let others think you are a fool > than to open it and > remove all doubt". Again, I apologize. > > Bert > > On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 08:31 PM, Ross > Richey wrote: > > > What wizards is clearly saying in this e-mail is > that none of their > > books > > will be released in draft or provisional form > under the "gentleman's > > agreement" (for example Dieties and Demigods or > the Epic Level > > Handbook). > > This is information which everyone on this list > well aware of or at > > the very > > least suspects. > > > > What you seem to be saying is that wizards will > not allow any new D20 > > products to be published using content that is > only available via the > > "gentleman's agreement". That is why everyone > (including myself) was > > so > > alarmed. > > > > The difference between the first assertion and the > second is night and > > day. > > I think in the future you should eschew the > somewhat amorphous term > > "anything else" in favor of something which more > clearly spells out > > exactly > > what you mean. > > __________________ > > Ross Richey > > Editor, DireKobold.com > > We're buying D20 adventures! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org]On > Behalf Of Bert Knabe > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:14 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Still new to the list. > > > > > > Sorry if this appears twice. I sent it once with > the wrong email > > address. > > > > On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 06:27 PM, > Clark Peterson wrote: > > > >>>>> You might want to be careful of using the > >>>>> 'gentleman's agreement'. I've > >>>>> seen a private email that says it was a > stopgap > >>>>> measure and they > >>>>> probably won't be allowing any more material > to > >>> be > >>>>> produced using it. > >> > >> Who posted this initial gossip and are they going > to > >> come back in and back any of this up? > >> > >> Clark > > > > I posted. Sorry to create such a firestorm. > > > > First, I did not say there would definitely be > nothing else under the > > Gentleman's Agreement, I said check before using > it. > > > > I saw it in an email forwarded to the discussion > list of an ezine I > > work on that is going to do a D20/OGL issue. The > editor was > > communicating with people at WotC to make sure he > understood what we > > could and could not do. Here is the pertinent > portion of the email from > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > >>>> 4) (a) All material that has been posted but is > not yet officially > >>>> released is covered under what we call "The > Gentleman's Agreement" > >>>> This > >>>> agreement says that you may use that material > but that you recognize > >>>> that > >>>> it may change when it is made official. If that > occurs you agree to > >>>> update > >>>> any future printings of your product. As a > magazine this obviously > >>>> does > >>>> not really apply. (b) Only that material that > is available at > >>>> www.opengamingfoundation.org in the SRD > section, may be treated in > >>>> this manner. > >>> > >>> OK, great, thanks. > >> > >> Just a little more info on this, since I'm also > the SRD guy. I do not > >> believe we have any plans to allow anything else > under the > >> "gentleman's > >> agreement". That was a stopgap measure taken > when we fell behind on > >> updating the SRD. Now that updates are going > again nothing is usable > >> until it is officially entered into the SRD. The > remainder of the > >> unofficial material will be made into official > SRD content, then we > >> will > >> decide what next to make open. > > > > > > Note that he does not say there definitely will > not be anything allowed > > under the "gentleman's agreement", he said he does > not believe anything > > else will be allowed. So before you spend a great > deal of time working > > on something, ask. a 10 second email isn't going > to kill anyone. > > > > Bert Knabe > > > > > > -- > > Always keep in mind that ignorance is curable. > Stupidity, however, is a > > lifelong problem. > > > > > > > > -- > > "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of > arms. The strongest > > reason for the people to retain the right to keep > and bear arms is, as > > a last resort, to protect themselves against > tyranny in government" > > > > -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson > Papers, 334 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ogf-l mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ogf-l mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l > > > > > > -- > "IF THERE IS a creative bone in your body, it's hard > not to look at the > Macintosh and not feel something tingle--which is > precisely what Apple > is counting on. Because while Windows is good at > many things, if what > you do is create something visual--be it digital > photography, Web > pages, magazines, television, film, or anything > else--the Mac is your > platform." 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