>
>   There was other people that tried to help you. The response we got back
> at first was "No one knows the PC it was kept away from the family" and the
> like. We just tried to stress, we were trying to help, and the long lost
> child thing was wearing thin, since it seems to happen once a month for the
> last year. And 75% of those turned out real bad.
>
> It gets more confusing when those long lost kids, start being older than
> almost every other PC out there, when the family was even more tight than it
> should be now.
>

I can understand how that can jade people as you end up giving out the same
cookie cutter responses.  When I first heard back I can only say that the
wording used tended to be hostile and even offensive as I think even mewpet
can attest to.  Other people did end up helping me and I am partway to where
I would like to be and am looking forward to integrating still further.


>
> This character that I play now, was made long before the book came out. I
> was told as long as I put the Sangiovanni name on the sheet, but play under
> a new name, in case what I wrote did not fit the right up, there would be no
> issue
>

It sounds like you had a wonderful ST staff to work with.  To counterpoint
that, however, I was told at the time that I talked with the DPotM at the
beginning of the chronicle to avoid even mentioning the name SanGiovanni
until it was formally written up, that it was a potentially actionable
offense.  Therefore, I did exactly that, but left a loose enough background
to permit some sort of retrofit when it became possible.


It would And a lot of that is lost on email. When we ran into Tim at ICC
this year, we dragged him along for a drink, got him to the meetings, help
worked with him, got an idea of what he needed, put the standard warnings of
"We don't do long lost family members, who were raised by pygmie midgets in
New Gini, then embraced out of family, but want to part of the whole"
A lot of that gets lost in the tone of email or IRC.

You are talking to players who spent lots of years, money, and time trying
to get this as close as we can to the book, which has a few gaps (which we
are not getting answers for from a higher power) try to get it and keep it
together, keep it fun, and keep it safe IC.


>From day one we had the "I was kidnapped and came back" then have that
player say it's not what they wanted, they wanted Giovanni and we should
rewrite the whole thing now and kill off the PCs that say no. We got the "I
am LS status 5, you have to like me, and let me in, just because I have LS
status, but want nothing to do with being family" and so on and so on.


Don't get me wrong, I did play a Giovanni last chronicle.  Worse, I played a
Pisanob.  However I know the differences between the families and the
chronicles and wanted to work with people.  My own OOC approach is one of
slowly learning new things and slowly fitting in.  In the NW, in my
experience, doing otherwise results in characters quickly being gacked and I
prefer not to have that happen.  I am not trying to rewrite the SanGiovanni
into anything other than how they currently are.  Heck, it is seldom I even
write up for Regional approval items, though I do have a few (like the
Bloodline or I wouldn't be here :) ).

What I am mostly saying is that I am happy to be here and I am interested in
being even more a part of the Family.  I know that V. is a lesson that the
first persons into the family are still hurting from but to be beating each
new person about it gets old.  It is simpler to say something like the
following:

Frequently in the Camarilla is it all about each player having a character
that is a unique snowflake.  This Family is designed to be different, to act
as a unified family unit, tightly knit even if it isn't in lockstep with
each other.  The Family does not as a rule Avus outside of their mortal
family nor outsight of very carefully chosen individuals.  It is a very
exclusive, Chosen bloodline indeed.

That said, there are those that are currently playing characters not quite
in line with the Family.  To this extent, what is currently being sought for
SanGiovannis are those to continue the Family line, to expand the Family.
There may be positions open in the future within the Family for the unique
snowflake but not at the current time. Please feel free to talk to
SanGiovanni players to discuss possible ways that you could be related and
have been fostered within the Family rather than look to play another unique
snowflake.


I believe that wording to be less offensive and less off-putting than some
of what I have heard.

Robert Brawn
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