I¹m late to this party, but maybe this will add something to the discussion. Not sure.
When I originally made Gabriel, as he was old and when the Sangiovanni were not so widely accepted, he came in as ³della Moretti² since his mother was Moretti. He is a cookie cutter Sangiovanni, right in line with canon. A Family first man, painfully Venician, devoted to his covenant and clan. A fun little twist that was added was that since the Moretti are a world-reknown glass sculpting family, that it would be kinda cool that some of us take it as a craft specialization. Also, the della Moretti are founded on Haitian Voodoun and Bokor magics (you know, all that death stuff and necromancy. ;-) So, Crone was a natural place to put Œem. Voodouisant families are known to pass along their rites and rituals, so it got added that the della Moretti were all Voodouisant Crone. Once Cousin Michael convinced Gabriel that they could ³come out of the closet² so to speak, the Sangiovanni got added to the name. Now, they¹re known as the ³della Moretti Sangiovanni². A respected family with deep roots in the founding of Haitian Voodoun, masters of death and the beyond, passionately loyal to their Family and Covenant. Some of us are even rumored to have mastered Spirit Cruac, but I will not confirm nor deny this. whistles innocently. They¹re not dual bloods, they¹re not long lost cousins (all are painstakingly accounted for, lineages back to the first generation), and are right within Canon. But, its got a few unique quirks that have made some cool RP up here. And not to mention, people love their Elysium gifts of ³Original della Moretti Sangiovanni Sculpture². It didn¹t happen overnight, but it ended up with some awseome ties and RP. There are now deep alliances with other Voodouisant families, Carthian allies who would lay their lives on the line for the Sangiovanni, among other things. I guess what I¹m saying is that its all in the twists you add when you play them. The NW seems to be pretty tight, and we got each others back regardless of Covenant. Hell, you put Michael and Gabriel in the same room with some poor sap who has wrong the Family, and it could very well get ugly for that dude. ;-) Brandon can attest that we¹ve put some heavy firepower in the region in alliance with this Family. And we both have our own ³quirks². It¹s not whats in your pants, but how you write with it? ......wait.....that came out wrong. I¹ve said too much. Del On 10/20/08 9:59 AM, "Robert Brawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There was other people that tried to help you. The response we got back at >> first was "No one knows the PC it was kept away from the family" and the >> like. We just tried to stress, we were trying to help, and the long lost >> child thing was wearing thin, since it seems to happen once a month for the >> last year. And 75% of those turned out real bad. >> >> It gets more confusing when those long lost kids, start being older than >> almost every other PC out there, when the family was even more tight than it >> should be now. > > I can understand how that can jade people as you end up giving out the same > cookie cutter responses. When I first heard back I can only say that the > wording used tended to be hostile and even offensive as I think even mewpet > can attest to. Other people did end up helping me and I am partway to where I > would like to be and am looking forward to integrating still further. > >> >> This character that I play now, was made long before the book came out. I was >> told as long as I put the Sangiovanni name on the sheet, but play under a new >> name, in case what I wrote did not fit the right up, there would be no issue > > It sounds like you had a wonderful ST staff to work with. To counterpoint > that, however, I was told at the time that I talked with the DPotM at the > beginning of the chronicle to avoid even mentioning the name SanGiovanni until > it was formally written up, that it was a potentially actionable offense. > Therefore, I did exactly that, but left a loose enough background to permit > some sort of retrofit when it became possible. > >> It would And a lot of that is lost on email. When we ran into Tim at ICC this >> year, we dragged him along for a drink, got him to the meetings, help worked >> with him, got an idea of what he needed, put the standard warnings of "We >> don't do long lost family members, who were raised by pygmie midgets in New >> Gini, then embraced out of family, but want to part of the whole" >> A lot of that gets lost in the tone of email or IRC. >> >> You are talking to players who spent lots of years, money, and time trying to >> get this as close as we can to the book, which has a few gaps (which we are >> not getting answers for from a higher power) try to get it and keep it >> together, keep it fun, and keep it safe IC. >> >> From day one we had the "I was kidnapped and came back" then have that player >> say it's not what they wanted, they wanted Giovanni and we should rewrite the >> whole thing now and kill off the PCs that say no. We got the "I am LS status >> 5, you have to like me, and let me in, just because I have LS status, but >> want nothing to do with being family" and so on and so on. >> > Don't get me wrong, I did play a Giovanni last chronicle. Worse, I played a > Pisanob. However I know the differences between the families and the > chronicles and wanted to work with people. My own OOC approach is one of > slowly learning new things and slowly fitting in. In the NW, in my > experience, doing otherwise results in characters quickly being gacked and I > prefer not to have that happen. I am not trying to rewrite the SanGiovanni > into anything other than how they currently are. Heck, it is seldom I even > write up for Regional approval items, though I do have a few (like the > Bloodline or I wouldn't be here :) ). > > What I am mostly saying is that I am happy to be here and I am interested in > being even more a part of the Family. I know that V. is a lesson that the > first persons into the family are still hurting from but to be beating each > new person about it gets old. It is simpler to say something like the > following: >> Frequently in the Camarilla is it all about each player having a character >> that is a unique snowflake. This Family is designed to be different, to act >> as a unified family unit, tightly knit even if it isn't in lockstep with each >> other. The Family does not as a rule Avus outside of their mortal family nor >> outsight of very carefully chosen individuals. It is a very exclusive, >> Chosen bloodline indeed. >> >> That said, there are those that are currently playing characters not quite in >> line with the Family. To this extent, what is currently being sought for >> SanGiovannis are those to continue the Family line, to expand the Family. >> There may be positions open in the future within the Family for the unique >> snowflake but not at the current time. Please feel free to talk to >> SanGiovanni players to discuss possible ways that you could be related and >> have been fostered within the Family rather than look to play another unique >> snowflake. >> > I believe that wording to be less offensive and less off-putting than some of > what I have heard. > > Robert Brawn > US2002023243 > > > > -- Del Smith US2002023011 ADC Administration - Seattle --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Sangiovanni Wiki can be found at www.san-giovanni.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ooc-sangiovanni" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ooc-sangiovanni?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
