on 8/3/00 10:20 PM, M. Uli Kusterer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Adrian: It appears that we would have a group of administrators and a group
>> of normal users. Administrators can initiate surveys and authorise new
>> members of the group as well as quite a few other things. We could make
>> everyone an administrator though. Everyone has access to download anything
>> just making changes needs an administrator.
>
> So, would we have any volunteers to become admins? Anthony and me would
> have to or we wouldn't be able to upload source code. Anyone who'd like to
> manage polls etc.?
Adrian: No, you don't need to be admins to change source. You just need to
be a member to have CVS access. Sorry. Long, long week and getting worse
and worse. Check out the help section on sourceforge, they're easy to find
and I don't have an URL right now.
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>Adrian: We would gain:
>* considerable public exposure
>* a permanent server
Certainly a plus
>* nightly backups
Heard about services that claimed this... we should make our own anyway.
Adrian: True, and a very good point.
>* CVS
Would be a plus if we found a decent Mac CVS client (There are two called
MacCVS of which one always gets timeout errors for me and the other
(associated with WinCVS) comes over as a corrupt archive).
Adrian: I know nothing of CVS and currently don't have time to learn.
>* online forums
Not that important to me, but I guess non-europeans with more decent phone
bills might profit.
Adrian: It could be a good way for users to give info to us without
subscribing to the list etc.
>* mailing lists (at the same address and in our control, set up as many as
>we like...)
A plus.
Adrian: Yes, MetaCard has been very good, but I think SourceForge will be
even more accomodating - it is what they exist for.
>* the url freecard.sourceforge.net (and if we register our own domain name
>source forge will serve it for us)
A nice add-on, but we can live without it.
Adrian: Yes, but it's nice to know that we won't loose that simple url
format that Alain's server provides.
>* a unix (Linux I believe) server to compile on
How'd that work ???
Adrian: Sorry, that should have read "access to a unix server to compile
on". We get SSH access to the server (and can't you compile in CVS anyway)
so we can use the server remotely.
>* CGI access, including PHP3.
Are those Perl CGIs?
Adrian: Pick a language - practically any language (except HC or
AppleScript...) C/C++ are definitely supported. I would be writing all the
CGIs in PHP3 though as that's what it's designed for.
>* A MySQL database (as many as we want actually).
Not sure what we'd use that for. Storing bug reports?
Adrian: The FreeCard Log. I've been wanting to port that to SQL and PHP3
for a while.
>* More that I can't remember.
Do they require us to name an official representative?
Adrian: One person will create the project, then we assign admin status to
as many people as we like and they are the representatives.
>When I get web access back (don't ask, just don't ask...), I'll grab the
>services page and send it to the list.
ask.
Adrian: oh, I told you not to ask that. Suffice it to say that my residence
at uni bites (but when I have access, boy is it fast!).
>* HyperCard & AppleScript CGIs (though we don't seem to have any of these
>working anyway)
Well, Alain's seemed to work 90% of the time.
Adrian: I have no troubles with Alain's cgis, but others did. I had read in
other message (I think from Alain) that none were fully working right now
though.
>* Alain's website until the CGI aspects are fully removed.
Hurts too.
Adrian: Yes. I will redevelop sections of the web site in coordination with
Alain I'm sure though. I think this is an opportunity to create a better
web site.
>* Mailing list archives??? (We should be able to move them but it will be a
>nuicence.
Nuisance. Yeah. How large are they? Could we just keep them as text files
in a read-only directory for future reference?
Adrian: We could definitely do that. There will be a way to incorporate
them into the new list archive that we will set up too.
>> Would we need a special PHP4 editor to use that aspect etc.
>
>Adrian: No. PHP3 generates HTML pages - the end user never needs to know
>that it's in use. To write PHP3 all you need is a text editor (no compiler
>either).
Oh, it's a language? Anyone know a URL where we can find the specs?
(Anthony ... ?)
Adrian: Umm, try http://www.php.org or http://www.php3.org otherwise I'll
find the manual for you. It's a really simple language with constructs
based on C.
>Adrian: We have much to sort out yet. I will continue my experiments with
>SourceForge.
Thanxalot!
Adrian: It's proving to be a lot of fun. :)
> -- M. Uli Kusterer
Adrian Sutton
PS: Sorry, the quoting on this message is all out of whack, I don't have
time to go back and fix it all up now.
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