sub, 16. ožu 2019. u 06:48 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> napisao je:
Since we're off-topic... I have the belief that if humanity decides to
switch to an open source world, by refusing, to the best they can, to
consume goods and services coming from closed source technology, the
world would become more just, abundant and efficient pretty much
overnight.
The good news is that it is happening, slowly though...
https://drewdevault.com/2019/01/15/Im-doing-FOSS-full-time.html
Nil
On 3/15/19 10:37 PM, Sarah Connorh wrote:
> cuz MONEY Ivan !
>
> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 20:47, Ivan V. <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> a
écrit :
>
> It should be an honor to contribute the society with a new
valuable
> idea. So why are we such a bastards?
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 20:38 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
napisao je:
>
> +1000
>
> i'll be gees
>
> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:29, Ivan V.
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> a écrit :
>
> And I hate the fact that who first clues up an
idea/process,
> has the power to restrict its use by copyright. What if
> someone independently clues up the same thing? Free
sharing
> is fine then, I have no better way.
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:17 Ivan V.
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> napisao je:
>
> Though, I have to admit, each of us owe a heaven
for all
> the knowledge inherited from the history.
>
> But human bureaucracy is a stupid mess. Someone
better
> have a smart idea on that behalf.
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:10 Sarah Connorh
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> napisao je:
>
> P.S : ooops forgive me for the last sentence,
read
> too fast
>
>
> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:09, Sarah Connorh
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> a
> écrit :
>
> Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are
> shared by different creators in the time.
Look
> at our history, many concepts were created
> multiple times at different location.
Because we
> got "collective intelligence" and ideas are
> shared by mans, you can't say that one
idea is
> yours, because it is the global knowledge
of the
> entire humanity that put you there.
>
> Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many
> scientist can tell you they discover
something
> trying to do another things. That's life shit
> happened, and good things thu.
>
> Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg.
>
> Everything is okey, but we can elevate the
> discussion above the "fok communism
bureaucracy"
> thing.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V.
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> a écrit :
>
> Sarah Connorh,
>
> I know you are a girl and therefore
> super-smart regarding to boys, but
forgive
> me to be that much direct.
>
> It happens that I suspect how ideas and
> visions are born. There is some unwritten
> Universe rule that says that there is no
> white without black, no music without a
> noise, no smile without a tear, no birth
> without a death, and as everything
else, no
> good idea without a junk mess. Ideas
don't
> just fall from the sky. Someone somewhere
> did a freaking mess for someone else
to get
> a freaking good idea (could be the same
> person, but not necessarily). I'm of
opinion
> that that someone who suffered to
conceive
> an idea is in complete ownership of the
> same, and should be consulted before
using it.
>
> But that's not how humans behave. We use
> what we can to get the things we want.
> Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from
> exploiting, but the Universe is the
one that
> levels everything afterwards (or
beforewards).
>
> I hope this makes sense.
>
> In a hope that everything is OK,
> Ivan V.
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V.
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> napisao je:
>
> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i
> don't believe in.
>
> If someone has dragged their soul
> through hell to produce an idea,
is it
> fair to be reluctant to use that idea
> without permission?
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah
Connorh
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> napisao je:
>
> But you can't protect it. An idea
> belong to the humanity and
can't be
> copyrighted, only technical
> processes (linked to this
idea) can
> be. (And even that, i don't
share.
> I'm for open source in every
fields,
> not only IT, but i respect the
> choice of some people to get
money
> for their work)
>
> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51,
Ivan
> V. <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> a écrit :
>
> Some ideas are result of
a hard
> work.
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u
17:01 Sarah
> Connorh
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> napisao je:
>
> PLUS : You gotta to know
> something. An IDEA
CAN'T be
> protected, only a
process.
> You can't protect the
idea
> of "creating a Emotionnal
> AI" but you can
protect your
> source code.
> Your IDEA is NOT
> protectable. You have to
> know HOW to do it and
> protect the WAY you
do it. :)
>
> cheers !
>
> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019
> à 16:25, JRTA
> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> a écrit :
>
> Funny thing is I
do have
> a brand new idea
but im
> not interested in
> getting rich. It'ts
> probably stupid but I
> still wouldn't talk
> about it with out
> protecting it.
> ..
> On Thursday,
March 14,
> 2019 at 9:21:45 AM
> UTC-5, Sarah
Connorh wrote:
>
> JRTA : Sorry
but we
> saw people
like you
> everyday that
have
> the brand new
IDEA
> that will
make them
> rich. And
seriously,
> don't do ever
again
> the "come sign a
> contract" people
> will laugh
the fuck
> out of you
you don't
> even imagine.
> Firstval a
> pathfinder isn't
> even an IA is
just
> one of the basics
> concepts you
have to
> understand before
> wanting to do
a real
> IA. you can find
> more on :
> https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/
> 2nd : If you are
> looking for a
> teacher this
is the
> wrong place you
> should go on
> Teachers
platform.
> 3rd : If you
have so
> much money or so
> good idea
don't ask
> people to sign
> contract or stuff
> like that. Prove
> yourself before
> trying to get
people
> tested.
> 4rd : La charue
> avant les
boeufs is
> a french
expression.
>
> If you need
help i
> can provide
you some
> advice in private
> message but
i'm not
> a teacher i'm
> Engineer.
(P.S i'm
> VERY
expensive :p )
>
> Regards
>
> I'll be back.
>
> Le mer. 13
mars 2019
> à 20:54, JRTA
>
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> a écrit :
>
> I will say,
> also, that it
> does seem
like I
> am in the
wrong
> place.
Despite
> that fact
I have
> picked up
some
> great
info from
> people
that have
> been very
> patient and
> helpful to a
> total
noob. I
> am really
> grateful
for the
> help I have
> received in
> pointing
me in
> the right
> direction
in a
> field that is
> quite the
rabbit
> hole.
There are
> definitely
> other
ways to
> find the
people
> I am
looking for.
>
> Jason
>
> On Wednesday,
> March 13,
2019
> at 8:50:33 AM
> UTC-5, Sarah
> Connorh
wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> could you
> stop
>
marijuana ? :D
>
>
Firstval :
> opencog,
> even if i
> love you
> guys,
that's
> a
crap. The
> AGI isn't
> close
to be
> finished.
> 2nd
: You
> can't pay
>
someone to
> teach you
>
everything,
> you
have to
> work too.
> 3rd :
Facial
>
recognition
> voice
>
recognition
> etc,
are you
> even
able to
> do a
>
pathfinder bro ?
>
> Don't put
> "la
charue
> avant les
>
roues" bro !
>
> ;)
>
>
Le mar. 12
> mars 2019
> à 20:03,
> JRTA
>
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> a écrit :
>
> Thank
>
you for
> the
>
response
>
Curtis.
>
> I am
>
going to
>
stretch
> the
>
definition
> of a
>
mentor
> here
>
considerably.
>
Below is
> the
>
start of
>
what I
>
hope to
>
accomplish,
>
and by
>
accomplish
> I
mean
> "pay,
>
and, or
>
manage
> many
> other
>
people
>
doing"
> while
>
studying
>
myself and
>
helping
> where
>
ever I
> can
>
through
>
assignments
>
you/others
> will
>
give me
>
related
>
to what
> ever
>
task is
>
priority.
>
> My
>
ultimate
>
goal is
> a
crowd
>
funded
>
separate/related
>
project
>
that is
>
more NN,
>
bottom
>
up, but
>
this is
>
Opencog
>
so lets
>
talk on
> these
>
points
>
for now.
> If it
> seems
>
like we
> are a
>
fit and
>
decide
>
to move
>
forward
> I
will
>
need 2
>
personal
>
references
>
that I
> can
>
verify
> by
>
phone.
>
Preferably
> a
>
supervisor
> and a
>
pastor.
> We
>
should
> work
>
through
>
rent-a-coder
> or a
>
platform
>
like it.
> I can
>
provide
>
you with
>
references
> via a
>
former
>
employee
> and a
>
pastor
>
from our
>
church.
> I
>
haven't
> had a
>
supervisor
>
since 1999.
>
>
You can
>
tell me
> your
>
background
>
through
>
talking
>
on each
>
of these
>
points.
>
>
The AI:
>
>
1. Friend
>
>
2. Teacher
>
> 3.
>
Located
>
in the
>
cloud to
>
interact
>
in the
>
car/phone/home/space
> ship
>
(wink), etc.
>
> 4.
>
Facial
>
recognition.
>
>
>
5. Voice
>
recognition
>
>
6. Able
> to
>
recognize police
> cars.
>
> 7.
>
Recognize pedestrians
>
> 8.
>
Assist
> like:
> "hey
>
google",
>
Cortana,
> and
> Seri,
>
but more
>
comprehensive.
>
No pun
>
intended.
>
> 9.
>
Recognize bio
>
signs,
> heart
> rate
>
respiration,
>
perspiration,
> ect.
>
> 10.
>
Analyze
> user
>
voice,
> and
>
voices
> in
>
conversation
>
with it
>
as well
> as in
> the
>
surrounding
> area
>
surrounding
>
area for
>
emotional state
> and
>
anything
> else
>
which it
>
is able
> to
>
discern.
> ( not
> for
>
spying,
>
but for
> the
>
safety
>
of the
>
user )
>
> 11.
>
Recognize and
>
respond
>
to users
>
emotional state
> both
>
therapeutically
>
and in
> and
>
effort
> to
>
"relate"
> (for
>
lack of
> a
better
>
word).
>
> 12.
>
Utilize
> the
> users
>
emotional state
>
(as well
> as
>
emotion
> in
>
general)
> as a
>
physical/mathematical
>
indicator for
>
prioritizing
>
decisions,
>
weighed
>
against
>
its own
>
cognitive processes.
>
>
13. The
> AI
>
should
>
actively
>
"study"
> (what
> ever
> that
>
looks like)
>
>
consciousness
>
philosophy
> love
> music
>
religion
>
> - and
>
relate
> these
>
back to
>
theoretical
>
and non
>
theoretical
>
quantum
>
physics
>
> I am
>
entirely
>
serious.
>
Should
>
we end
> up
>
talking
>
about my
> other
>
project
>
later on
> this
>
will all
> make
> more
>
sense,
>
but for
> now I
>
can not
>
wait to
> hear
>
what you
>
have to say.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On
>
Monday,
> March
>
11, 2019
> at
>
2:37:33
> PM
>
UTC-5,
>
Curtis
>
Michael
>
Faith wrote:
>
>
If
>
you
>
are
>
still looking
>
let
>
me
>
know
>
please.
> I
>
have
>
extensive
>
experience
>
in
>
the
>
codebase.
>
>
- Curtis
>
>
On
>
Fri,
>
Mar
>
1,
>
2019
>
at
>
5:31
>
PM
>
JRTA
>
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
wrote:
>
>
My
>
coding
>
experience
>
is
>
limited
>
to
>
the
>
basics
>
of
>
Python,
>
building
>
a few
>
web
>
pages
>
with
>
Dreamweaver
>
and
>
some
>
minor
>
work
>
programming
>
micro
>
processors.
>
I have
>
no
>
formal
>
computer
>
science
>
education,
>
but
>
seem
>
to
>
pick
>
things
>
up
>
intuitively
>
once
>
I spend
>
a bit
>
of
>
time
>
on
>
anything.
>
I am
>
foremost
>
a musician
>
an
>
artist
>
with
>
a strong
>
marketing
>
background. I
>
have
>
launched
>
and
>
run
>
several
>
companies
>
in
>
my
>
life
>
and
>
work
>
well
>
with
>
a team.
>
I have
>
achieved
>
many
>
things
>
with
>
the
>
help
>
of
>
others
>
and
>
by
>
using
>
teams
>
of
>
interns.
>
>
While
>
overly
>
ambitious,
>
this
>
project
>
has
>
been
>
at
>
the
>
top
>
of
>
my
>
bucket
>
list
>
for
>
a long
>
time.
>
I am
>
willing
>
to
>
put
>
some
>
money
>
into
>
this
>
project.
>
I'm
>
not
>
wealthy
>
by
>
any
>
means
>
and
>
have
>
a moderate
>
disposable
>
income.
>
Right
>
now
>
I feel
>
like
>
I'm
>
missing
>
some
>
parts
>
of
>
what
>
is
>
needed
>
in
>
ubuntu
>
just
>
to
>
get
>
started.
>
Most
>
of
>
the
>
commands
>
in
>
the
>
build
>
scripts
>
are
>
not
>
recognized.
>
I am
>
about
>
2 days
>
into
>
this,
>
never
>
worked
>
with
>
Linux
>
before
>
either.
>
Don't
>
tell
>
me
>
I can't
>
do
>
it
>
because
>
I won't
>
listen
>
to
>
that
>
and
>
will
>
indeed
>
do
>
it.
>
XD
>
I am
>
just
>
learning
>
to
>
find
>
my
>
way
>
around
>
the
>
wiki
>
and
>
have
>
probably
>
missed
>
some
>
essential
>
basic
>
starting
>
pieces
>
needed
>
before
>
I can
>
build
>
the
>
project.
>
I did
>
do
>
the
>
manual
>
build
>
and
>
got
>
most
>
of
>
the
>
way
>
only
>
to
>
fail
>
at
>
the
>
end.
>
>
>
I currently
>
work
>
nights
>
Ubering
>
in
>
a bad
>
ass
>
sports
>
car.
>
I have
>
a good
>
chunk
>
of
>
free
>
time
>
to
>
work
>
on
>
this.
>
I am
>
going
>
to
>
forgo
>
video
>
gaming
>
and
>
Netflix
>
to
>
focus
>
on
>
this.
>
I strongly
>
believe,
>
despite
>
my
>
meager
>
qualifications,
>
that
>
I can
>
become
>
an
>
asset
>
to
>
this
>
project
>
for
>
the
>
long
>
term
>
and
>
am
>
willing
>
to
>
help
>
others
>
in
>
any
>
way
>
I can.
>
>
>
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