I suggest that a phased approach to be followed, an organization, a
ministry, and then government. I suggest we start with organization of
educational buildings abnya tal3mia, then ministry of education, then
government. First phase 3 years, second 5 years, third 7 years. Many
reasons lie behind such a recommendation.  I cannot write more at the
moment.
Best,
Ahmed
On Aug 25, 2012 8:29 PM, "Ahmed Mekkawy" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> ** I agree. What I meant by not offering more value than debian was about
> the OS itself. Ofcourse the training materials are a plus. I do believe
> that some big entity as a government needs to create its own training
> certificate, just like what malysia did.
>
> * Desktop distro:
> First I see that it should be a matching distro as the server one, which
> means fedora (or something based on it) if we choose redhat, or something
> based on debian if we choose debian/ubuntu.
>
> As we have a very large number of distros, let me summerize from my POV
> what we need for the distro:
>
> - to be light: we got lots of outdated hardware in the government. We need
> to use it and bring it back to live. Less hardware specs means less cost
> and less hardware upgrades. I suggest we drop any distro that is based on
> KDE, gnome, or unity. I suggest xfce, lxde, or something like that.
> - ease of use: and hopefully if it looks like windows XP. Yes this what we
> unfortunately need.
> - important updates rate: we need low volume of updates, most governmental
> agencies have very limited bandwidth.
> - depending mainly on GUI and the CLI intervention should be relatively
> minimal.
>
> This is what I got in mind till now.
>
> Thanks,
> Ahmed
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree, Debian is my personal favorite as well. But to be
>> objective, Ubuntu has the advantage of having some training material and
>> courses from Canonical, and does not require being tied to another company,
>> so you can get the training, and save the updates subscription fees.
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> When I talked about standerdizing a distro to suggest for the
>>> engineering syndicate issue, some guys suggested others. So I thought about
>>> opening this thread to say why did I choose it and discuss the
>>> alternatives. I'm sending this from my mobile so please execuse my previty.
>>>
>>> * Server distro:
>>> I guess the real alternatives we got is redhat, centos, ubuntu and
>>> debian. Let me summerize shortly my openion on each of them:
>>> - redhat: technically competing. The good thing is clear training
>>> pathes. But on the other hand I don't believe we need to be tied to another
>>> american company. Paying monthly subscriptions for all the government
>>> servers as long as paying for training all the staff is not a pleasant idea
>>> for me. Remember that the syndicate project title is technological
>>> independance.
>>> - centos: I don't believe that centos is good enough for governmental
>>> servers. Enough that the security updates are too slow which could cause
>>> disasters.
>>> - debian: this is my personal choice, technically competing, excellent
>>> security updates, very stable. And best of all, it is an independant, very
>>> large, and very distributed contributers group which ensures we don't be
>>> dependant on a certain company or even country.
>>> - ubuntu: from my POV, ubuntu server doesn't give any real value more
>>> than debian. Except being dependant on a company instead of contributer
>>> group. This can be better in some aspects like having official support. But
>>> I believe we don't really need that.
>>>
>>> Will send another email for desktop distros
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>>
>>

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