This reply is to reopen this thread and this is my choice * Server distro : Debian * Desktop distro: Ubuntu
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Ahmed Koraiem <[email protected]> wrote: > Adding to Mekkawy, we must also ensure that any updates and/or > modifications do not greatly affect the user experience (for obvious > reasons), that's why we need to put in mind that any UI that we will agree > on will have to stay like it is for 3-4 years, even if the OS itself got > updated (which means if we choose lxde for example we might have to stick > to a specific version number for good). > > We should also create a mechanism to monitor these computers or managing > them remotely for IT departments; consider a different distro. > > Dr. Hefnawy is right, we should start with organizations and use them as > case studies to lobby for bigger phases. > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ahmed ElHefnawy > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I suggest that a phased approach to be followed, an organization, a >> ministry, and then government. I suggest we start with organization of >> educational buildings abnya tal3mia, then ministry of education, then >> government. First phase 3 years, second 5 years, third 7 years. Many >> reasons lie behind such a recommendation. I cannot write more at the >> moment. >> Best, >> Ahmed >> On Aug 25, 2012 8:29 PM, "Ahmed Mekkawy" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** I agree. What I meant by not offering more value than debian was >>> about the OS itself. Ofcourse the training materials are a plus. I do >>> believe that some big entity as a government needs to create its own >>> training certificate, just like what malysia did. >>> >>> * Desktop distro: >>> First I see that it should be a matching distro as the server one, which >>> means fedora (or something based on it) if we choose redhat, or something >>> based on debian if we choose debian/ubuntu. >>> >>> As we have a very large number of distros, let me summerize from my POV >>> what we need for the distro: >>> >>> - to be light: we got lots of outdated hardware in the government. We >>> need to use it and bring it back to live. Less hardware specs means less >>> cost and less hardware upgrades. I suggest we drop any distro that is based >>> on KDE, gnome, or unity. I suggest xfce, lxde, or something like that. >>> - ease of use: and hopefully if it looks like windows XP. Yes this what >>> we unfortunately need. >>> - important updates rate: we need low volume of updates, most >>> governmental agencies have very limited bandwidth. >>> - depending mainly on GUI and the CLI intervention should be relatively >>> minimal. >>> >>> This is what I got in mind till now. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ahmed >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I totally agree, Debian is my personal favorite as well. But to be >>>> objective, Ubuntu has the advantage of having some training material and >>>> courses from Canonical, and does not require being tied to another company, >>>> so you can get the training, and save the updates subscription fees. >>>> >>>> ----------------------* >>>> Mosab Ahmad * >>>> Entrepreneur in the make >>>> >>>> Cell : +201119942443 >>>> E-mail : [email protected] >>>> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/mosab >>>> github : https://github.com/mos3abof >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> When I talked about standerdizing a distro to suggest for the >>>>> engineering syndicate issue, some guys suggested others. So I thought >>>>> about >>>>> opening this thread to say why did I choose it and discuss the >>>>> alternatives. I'm sending this from my mobile so please execuse my >>>>> previty. >>>>> >>>>> * Server distro: >>>>> I guess the real alternatives we got is redhat, centos, ubuntu and >>>>> debian. Let me summerize shortly my openion on each of them: >>>>> - redhat: technically competing. The good thing is clear training >>>>> pathes. But on the other hand I don't believe we need to be tied to >>>>> another >>>>> american company. Paying monthly subscriptions for all the government >>>>> servers as long as paying for training all the staff is not a pleasant >>>>> idea >>>>> for me. Remember that the syndicate project title is technological >>>>> independance. >>>>> - centos: I don't believe that centos is good enough for governmental >>>>> servers. Enough that the security updates are too slow which could cause >>>>> disasters. >>>>> - debian: this is my personal choice, technically competing, excellent >>>>> security updates, very stable. And best of all, it is an independant, very >>>>> large, and very distributed contributers group which ensures we don't be >>>>> dependant on a certain company or even country. >>>>> - ubuntu: from my POV, ubuntu server doesn't give any real value more >>>>> than debian. Except being dependant on a company instead of contributer >>>>> group. This can be better in some aspects like having official support. >>>>> But >>>>> I believe we don't really need that. >>>>> >>>>> Will send another email for desktop distros >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> >>>> > -- "Eslam Mohamed Diaa" Software Engineer - web developer Ministry of State for Administrative Development Trying to be better .. more & more ... !! http://esl4m.com twitter: esl4mdiaa g+ : iplus.im/esl4m GDGMansoura <iplus.im/gdgmansoura/> leader
