Russell Bryant wrote:
> On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
>> On 10/30/2014 04:53 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jay Pipes wrote:
>>>>> On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 06:46 PM, Rochelle Grober wrote:
>>>>>>> Any chance we could use the opening to move either the Refstack
>>>>>>> session or the logging session from their current joint (and
>>>>>>> conflicting) time (15:40)?  QA really would be appreciated at both.
>>>>>>> And I'd really like to be at both.  I'd say the Refstack one would go
>>>>>>> better in the debug slot, as the API stuff is sort of related to the
>>>>>>> logging.  Switching with one of the 14:50 sessions might also work.
>>>>>>> Just hoping.  I really want great participation at all of these
>>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>> The "gate debugging" session is most likely going to be dropped at this
>>>>>> point.  I don't see a big problem with moving the refstack one to that
>>>>>> slot (the first time).
>>>>>> Anyone else have a strong opinion on this?
>>>>> Sounds good to me.
>>>> Sounds good.
>>> With the "gate debugging" session being  dropped due to being the wrong
>>> format to be productive, we now need a new session. After looking over the
>>> etherpad of proposed cross project sessions I think there is one glaring
>>> omission: the SDK. In the "Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise" thread [0] having a
>>> real SDK was one of the top answers. Many folks had great responses that
>>> clearly explained the issues end users are having [1].  As for who could
>>> lead a session like this I have two ideas: Monty Taylor, who had one of the
>>> most colorful explanations to why this is so critical, or Dean Troyer, one
>>> of the few people actually working on this right now. I think it would be
>>> embarrassing if we had no cross project session on SDKs, since there
>>> appears to be a consensus that the making life easier for the end user is a
>>> high priority.
>>> The current catch is, the free slot is now at 15:40, so it would compete
>>> with 'How to Tackle Technical Debt in Kilo,' a session which I expect to be
>>> very popular with the same people who would be interested in attending a
>>> SDK session.
>> I'm happy to lead this, to co-lead with Dean or to just watch Dean lead
>> it - although I can promise in any format to start off the time period
>> with some very colorful ranting. I think I'm less necessary in the tech
>> debt session, as other than "yes, please get rid of it" I probably don't
>> have too much more input that will be helpful.
> OK, awesome!  I'll put you down for now.
> I could use a proposed session description to put on
> Otherwise, I'll just make something up.

+1 on the topic. Thanks Joe for completing the circle we started with
the TC candidates priorities !

I'd make it about the "End user experience" in general.

Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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