Any chance we could use the opening to move either the Refstack session or the 
logging session from their current joint (and conflicting) time (15:40)?  QA 
really would be appreciated at both. And I'd really like to be at both.  I'd 
say the Refstack one would go better in the debug slot, as the API stuff is 
sort of related to the logging.  Switching with one of the 14:50 sessions might 
also work.

Just hoping.  I really want great participation at all of these sessions.

--rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:35 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

On 10/29/2014 07:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
> On 10/28/2014 05:22 PM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>> A draft schedule has been posted for the cross-project design summit track:
>>
>> http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/cross-project+workshops#.VFAFFXVGjUa
>>
>> If you have any schedule changes to propose for really bad conflicts,
>> please let me know.  We really tried to minimize conflicts, but it's
>> impossible to resolve them all.
>>
>> The next steps are to identify session leads and get the leads to write
>> session descriptions to put on the schedule.  We're collecting both at
>> the top of the proposals etherpad:
>>
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics
>>
>> If you were the proposer of one of these sessions and are not already
>> listed as the session lead, please add yourself.  If you'd like to
>> volunteer to lead a session that doesn't have a lead, please speak up.
>>
>> For the sessions you are leading, please draft a description on the
>> etherpad that can be used for the session on sched.org.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
> I was trying to track down the origin of the "Debugging Gate Failures"
> submission -
> http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/5cfc92906adc5830355ddcedbb95d977
> (through matching hex author colors in etherpad... fun!)
>
> It looks like John G copied it over because someone (lost to the mists
> of time) put it in the Nova ideas etherpad.
>
> I'd actually argue that a 40 minute interactive session without much
> prep isn't going to be all that useful (and honestly probably a terrible
> experience for all parties involved). This is a topic that Jay, Dan, and
> I have discussed for doing an upcoming bootstrapping hour on (which also
> means it would have a long term archived version), and I think that's
> probably a better way to do a thing like this.
>
> As there is no owner for this, there is no one to pull it out of the
> agenda. But I think it's something that should be considered.

Actually, it was me who added that to the cross-project session proposal 
etherpad :)

But, that said, I agree with you that the format of the cross-project 
sessions are not ideal for this topic and it would be better as an 
archived OBH session.

Best,
-jay

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