Hi, I fully agree on Toni ... actually for PaxWeb it had always been an issue of not beeing an apache project. Therefore I'd go with option 4, the how-to would be needed to be worked out.
regards, Achim Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Grzegorz Grzybek < [email protected]>: > Hello > > While being happy contributor of pax-logging, pax-web, > pax-jdbc/jms/transx, pax-url, pax-cdi, I never wonder about how it works. > I've never seen working https://ops4j.org site (it's now "it works!" > page) and I assumed Atlassian is providing us (how?) JIRA + Confluence. > > I don't know what to suggest, except that I'll welcome any improvement ;) > > regards > Grzegorz Grzybek > > śr., 19 lut 2020 o 13:15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > [email protected]> napisał(a): > >> Hi Toni >> >> Thanks for bringing this discussion forward. >> >> I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and >> proposals. >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >>> *TL/TR:* >>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used >>> atm). >>> >>> *Long version:* >>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with >>> OPS4J in general. >>> >>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get >>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was >>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the >>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including >>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax >>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals >>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles >>> got to life.. but oh well. >>> >>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and >>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is >>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. >>> >>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come >>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): >>> >>> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the >>> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means >>> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too >>> btw). >>> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities >>> backing >>> this anyway. >>> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear >>> who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to >>> spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. >>> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an >>> entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not >>> sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. >>> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache. >>> Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) >>> >>> wdyt? >>> Toni >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer >>> culture* >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Niclas >>>> >>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀). >>>> >>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >>>> >>>> Thoughts ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> JB >>>> >>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> Everyone, >>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for >>>>> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no >>>>> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But >>>>> where to?? >>>>> >>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a >>>>> trusted community member. >>>>> >>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. 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