On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:25:31 PM CET 'Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J wrote: > Hi, > > I fully agree on Toni ... > actually for PaxWeb it had always been an issue of not beeing an apache > project. > Therefore I'd go with option 4, the how-to would be needed to be worked > out.
Really? But we already have a HTTP and Log service at Felix (and another one at Sling) and I guess it means a lot of paper work related to IP and donations. O. > regards, Achim > > > Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Grzegorz Grzybek < > > [email protected]>: > > Hello > > > > While being happy contributor of pax-logging, pax-web, > > pax-jdbc/jms/transx, pax-url, pax-cdi, I never wonder about how it works. > > I've never seen working https://ops4j.org site (it's now "it works!" > > page) and I assumed Atlassian is providing us (how?) JIRA + Confluence. > > > > I don't know what to suggest, except that I'll welcome any improvement ;) > > > > regards > > Grzegorz Grzybek > > > > śr., 19 lut 2020 o 13:15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > [email protected]> napisał(a): > >> Hi Toni > >> > >> Thanks for bringing this discussion forward. > >> > >> I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and > >> proposals. > >> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> a > >> > >> écrit : > >>> *TL/TR:* > >>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used > >>> atm). > >>> > >>> *Long version:* > >>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with > >>> OPS4J in general. > >>> > >>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get > >>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was > >>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to > >>> the > >>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including > >>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, > >>> Pax > >>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals > >>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles > >>> got to life.. but oh well. > >>> > >>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and > >>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is > >>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. > >>> > >>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come > >>> > >>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): > >>> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the > >>> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this > >>> means > >>> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too > >>> btw). > >>> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities > >>> backing > >>> this anyway. > >>> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear > >>> who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring > >>> to > >>> spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. > >>> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an > >>> entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am > >>> not > >>> sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. > >>> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache. > >>> Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) > >>> > >>> wdyt? > >>> Toni > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer > >>> culture* > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Hi Niclas > >>>> > >>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀). > >>>> > >>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. > >>>> > >>>> Thoughts ? > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> JB > >>>> > >>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> a > >>>> > >>>> écrit : > >>>>> Everyone, > >>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for > >>>>> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since > >>>>> I no > >>>>> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. > >>>>> But > >>>>> where to?? > >>>>> > >>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a > >>>>> trusted community member. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will > >>>>> simply follow what you all can agree on. > >>>>> > >>>>> ops4j.org > >>>>> ops4j.net > >>>>> ops4j.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> Niclas [...] -- -- ------------------ OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - [email protected] --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OPS4J" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/1814748.u1p1uTNNxy%40madness.front.ruhr.
