Hi, If option 4 is interesting, we have to remember:
1. First, in which Apache umbrella project. I don't think Felix is a good match as we might have some overlap with existing projects (felix http, ...). Maybe Karaf ? 2. We need to transfer IP and "PMC" set and ask in the Apache project community with a formal vote. 3. We will have to follow Apache process, especially for releases (meaning at least 3 days vote, 3 binding votes, etc), extending Apache pom, etc. So, IMHO, we have really two options: 1. We keep OPS4J community, do a cleanup (announcing non active projects) 2. We move active Pax projects to Apache (obviously my preference would be Karaf). Thoughts ? Regards JB On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:01 PM Toni Menzel <toni.men...@rebaze.com> wrote: > *TL/TR:* > I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used > atm). > > *Long version:* > Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with > OPS4J in general. > > It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get hands > dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was default. > Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the subversion > repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including admin access > to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax > Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking > for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but > oh well. > > Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam > - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just > that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. > > So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come > to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): > > - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the Build > Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means I'd be > also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw). It > would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing > this anyway. > - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear > who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to > spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. > - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity > that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of > this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. > - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache. > Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) > > wdyt? > Toni > > > > > *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer > culture* > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Niclas >> >> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀). >> >> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >> >> Thoughts ? >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> a >> écrit : >> >>> Everyone, >>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal. >>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer >>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where >>> to?? >>> >>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a >>> trusted community member. >>> >>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. 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