On 6/28/18 18:16, Alan DeKok wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Joe Clarke <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would ask that people like Alan (that have been very vocal) make sure
>> that any points have been addressed and if specific changes require more
>> thorough explanation.
> 
>   I would prefer that the document approach publication quality before doing 
> significantly more work.
> 
>   Despite many, many, reviews and both editorial and technical feedback, the 
> new text in the document isn't much better than text from 3 years ago.  It's 
> still vague, not prescriptive, doesn't use normative text, etc.
> 
>   I've done do a quick check recently, and there are still major issues with 
> the document. So there isn't much point in doing more detailed reviews.  
> Having done that lots, I'm disinclined to do it again.

Thanks, Alan.  I do want it to get closer to publication quality, and
now that the authors are engaging more actively, I want the WG to help
them get there.

Specific to the normative language, I have a few questions here,
especially with the security concerns.  I'll comment on Douglas' email,
and I would appreciate your input on my comments.

Broadly, given that we want an informational draft that describes the
protocol as it is implemented today, I feel there should be a balance
struck with respect to normative language so that we don't make existing
clients "out of spec."

Joe
> 

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