Hi All,

The WG has discussed how to deliver this document two years ago, and came out 
the solution as follows:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg04363.html

So the first step is to document the existing TACACS+ protocol as best as we 
can.
We agreed existing TACACS+ protocol is not secure. We Should discuss the 
security issues in the security considerations section, which could be the 
input/trigger for the following enhanced protocol.

So I hope the discussion do not go off the track. Let's work on the delivery of 
the first document.

Regards,
Tianran, as co-chair 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: OPSAWG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott O. Bradner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:18 AM
> To: Alan DeKok <[email protected]>
> Cc: Douglas Gash (dcmgash) <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Andrej Ota
> <[email protected]>; Thorsten Dahm <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Action Items on TACACS+ informational draft v 10
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 9, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Alan DeKok <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 9, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Andrej Ota <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I think that forbidding some parts with MUST would go against the original
> mandate for this draft which I understood to be documenting what's used and
> specifically not working to do a revision of protocol (which I would love
> to hide behind TLS).
> >
> >  The IETF is not about rubber-stamping existing implementations or
> practices.
> >
> 
> imo - documenting existing practice is not the same thing as “rubber stamping”
> 
> Scott
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