On Jul 9, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Joe Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Broadly, given that we want an informational draft that describes the
> protocol as it is implemented today, I feel there should be a balance
> struck with respect to normative language so that we don't make existing
> clients "out of spec."

  It's an informational draft, so from a bureaucratic point of view, it doesn't 
really define a standard.

  That being said, the spec should require that implementations be as secure as 
possible given the protocol limits.  If this means forbidding things that are 
widely used... well... that's progress.

  If the spec is as strong as possible, then implementors will still be free to 
ignore it.  Just as they ignore the specs for most other protocols. :(  But 
users of those implementations can ask pointed questions of "Why are you 
shipping me something that is insecure by design?"

  Which is a Good Thing.

  Alan DeKok.

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