I guess you are not using Oracle Human Resources Applications. For most of
the patches that we've applied, there are new bugs. It's a never-ending
applying patches-after-patches ... We've lost count of the number of TARs
opened. The worst part is after applying a patch to solve a bug, the new
problem which was not documented in the readme file always emerge itself
after sometime. By then, it's too late to revert back to the old version.
Are we the only company having the problem ? sigh..
Regds,
Catherine
-----Original Message-----
From: Conboy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle Arm Twisting?
"I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months."
Ah, my friend, but you're not using Portal 9.0.2, are you?
I've opened more TARs in the last few months than the rest of my Oracle
career. Bleeding edge, I guess, so maybe its our own fault. But
third-party support for this would have stopped the project before it got
started.
I agree that its not accurate to generalize all tech support
as nimrods. There are some very good ones out there, and even the rest at
least have acccess to all the internal notes we can't get to (Grrrrr...why
the hell do they show in metalink searches if we can't see them?). And the
developers, if you can ever get to them, know their stuff and are a pretty
decent bunch.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:18 PM
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Well, that's not really fair. There are a number of good
people
that work for Oracle Support. True, there are also some
that
are subpar, but how often is it necessary to open a TAR
anymore?
MetaLink has vastly improved over the past couple of years.
I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months.
Some excellent in depth posts that you may have seen on this
list were put there buy Oracle support personnel.
No, I'm not saying who they are.
Jared
Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons.
However one thing
you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third
party support
is bug fixes and product upgrades. If you want this without
a support
contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you
upgrade.
Rodd
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote:
-- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Now they say, that this can't be done and the product
license will be
> terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle
support is
useless(I
> get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it,
just in case.
Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if
you think their support is that bad: fear of not having
support that you don't want because you think it's bad.
Q: Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for
Oracle?
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