Acknowledged. Added information on http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Community/PackageMaintainers accordingly. We may (later) put the same kind of info on the download page.
Sukender PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/ Le Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:34:07 +0100, Robert Osfield <[email protected]> a écrit: > Hi Guys, > > Mattias's thoughts on the this issue chime with my own pretty exactly. > The core libopenscenegraph and openscenegaph packages are for libs + > plugins (built from 3rd party dependencies), examples are in their own > separate package, and additional plugins like dcmtk, vrml, inventor > etc. are all separate packages with their own separate dependencies. > > Robert. > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Mattias Helsing <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> Good question. I must admit that my mind has touched but blocked this issue. >> >> To clarify. Sorry if I'm repeating someone. openscenegraph-x.y.z >> contains the applications. libopensceneggraph-x.y.z is the runtime >> libraries including built standard plugins, >> libopenscenegraph-dev-x.y.z is headers (and .lib on win32), >> openscenegraph-examples-x.y.z is all built examples (again depending >> on deps) >> >> Sukenders proposal to make the 3rdParty dependencies be the definition >> of standard plugins is sound and I second that for now. >> >> In the longterm the ideal solution is that package maintainers (such >> as me) build all plugins. This is possible now of course but very time >> consuming for package maintainers. However - we may eventually have a >> better solution for managing 3rdParty dependencies. Perhaps we can >> have 3rdParty dep maintainers, e.g a COLLADA maintainer, DCMTK >> maintainer. We have touched this topic a few times on this list so I >> know that Robert has pondered a bit around this and will eventually >> initiate a discussion. Anyway - then package maintainers won't have to >> maintain all 3rdParty dependencies but just check it out from repo. >> >> Mattias >> >> On 2/12/09, Paul Martz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I'm aware that plugins, and the windowing system examples, don't get built >>> if CMake doesn't find the dependencies. >>> >>> My question is specifically aimed at the contents of the binaries that will >>> be posted to the OSG Wiki Web page for users to download. Someone usually >>> builds them and posts them, so I'm just wondering if there is some >>> organization behind this, some minimum contents requirement, so that the >>> binaries for different platforms all have the same set of plugins and >>> examples. >>> >>> I think it would be a bad thing if someone decided to build a set of >>> binaries for distribution on the OSG Wiki, but failed to get the necessary >>> dependencies, and posted a set of binaries for download that was missing >>> some functionality available in the binaries for other platforms. >>> >>> Paul Martz >>> Skew Matrix Software LLC >>> http://www.skew-matrix.com >>> +1 303 859 9466 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sukender >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:44 PM >>> To: OpenSceneGraph Users >>> Subject: Re: [osg-users] 2.8.0-rc5 VC8 packages available + questions >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Yes, pakages contain examples. >>> And as far as I know, plugins depend on what you selected in CMake. So if >>> you disable everything (or if CMake doesn't find the dependencies), then >>> your package will have no plugins. >>> >>> Sukender >>> PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> >>> Le Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:03:59 +0100, Paul Martz <[email protected]> a >>> écrit: >>> >>>> Just a question regarding the contents of the binary packages... I >>>> assume they contain: >>>> * All of core OSG (osg, osgUtil, osgDB, osgViewer) >>>> * All the NodeKits (osgShadow, osgSim, osgGA, etc.) >>>> * All the applications (osgviewer, osgconv, etc.) >>>> >>>> Questions: >>>> * Do the binaries also contain all the examples? >>>> * What about viewer examples for the various windowing systems (wx, >>>> qt, etc.)? >>>> * And which (if any) plugins were excluded? >>>> >>>> This info is for the new Quick Start Guide. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Martz >>>> Skew Matrix Software LLC >>>> http://www.skew-matrix.com >>>> +1 303 859 9466 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> Sukender >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:59 AM >>>> To: OpenSceneGraph Users >>>> Subject: Re: [osg-users] 2.8.0-rc5 VC8 packages available + questions >>>> >>>> Hi JS, >>>> >>>> Well, the 'all' package was just for me. As package maintainers, I >>>> think we should provide separate packages as you say, or averything >>>> ('all' + separated). >>>> >>>> Sukender >>>> PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - >>>> http://pvle.sourceforge.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Le Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:39:52 +0100, Jean-Sébastien Guay >>>> <[email protected]> a écrit: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sukender, >>>>> >>>>>> 1. Both debug and release packages contain generated documentation >>>>>> (So >>>> you have a "Overwrite file?" prompt from the unarchiver une unziping >>> both). >>>> Do you think we should disable the inclusion (or building) of the doc >>>> when in debug, or is it safer to keep as it is? >>>>> >>>>> I would vote for a different approach: upload separate packages >>>>> instead of the -all package. That way people can download what they >>>>> need, and "automatically" the documentation will not be there twice. >>>>> >>>>> But if we really want to keep the -all package as the official one, >>>>> then I would say that only the debug package should contain the docs. >>>>> To do any development on Windows you need both the release and debug >>>>> packages, but if you only want to run osgviewer you will only >>>>> download release, and in that case the docs are of no use to you. >>>>> >>>>>> 2. I saw that "Cygwin" and "nmake" sections on >>>> http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Community/PackageMaint >>>> ainers ... Is there any difference between *binaries* generated from >>>> MinGW-gcc and Cygwin-gcc? And for nmake, I guess it uses the MSVC >>>> compiler, right? So binaries are not different from "pure" MSVC ones, >>>> or am I wrong? >>>>>> This could be confusing: if you use an "nmake" build, will this be a >>>>>> VC7, >>>> VC8, or VC9 one? Moreover, I thought that Cygwin, MinGW and nmake >>>> packages are named against the compiler (it shows "gcc" and "vc" in >>>> the name). So I suggest these sections to be removed, but I just need >>> confirmation. >>>>> >>>>> I'm the one who put those sections, I don't even know if they're needed. >>>>> You could remove them and someone else can add them in the future if >>>>> they're really needed. And yes, someone else (Mattias?) said that >>>>> nmake will use msvc to build so it's the same as msvc, so we can just >>>>> remove that one. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> J-S >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osg-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph. >>>> org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osg-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph. >>>> org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osg-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osg-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> osg-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >> > _______________________________________________ > osg-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org _______________________________________________ osg-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
