Come on - I thought that was a pretty good comeback. Anyway, who says I
support the liberal plan? I am pretty sure I am on the record for saying
the Commonwealth should not be spending *any *money on this except for
structural and blackspot issues.

Just because I called bullshit on Ken saying "Those in the HFC areas will
end up with the worst of the possible options." doesn't automatically make
me an advocate for the current government's plan.

$52.38 is good value for 375:1 if you look at it on its own - but pretty
much every ISP is on the record as saying something different... then again
I guess they have those annoying pricks called shareholders to contend
with.

*iiNet *
1.4million subscribers (2011 figures, could find 2013)
Market cap ~$960million
NPAT ~61million

CVC charges alone assuming we all get 1gbps for future 3D holographic frogs
and shit:
3000:1: $112million per annum
375:1: $692million per annum
120:1 (same as a cheap provider today): $2.1 billion per annum
50:1 (same as a quality provider today): $5 billion per annum

I guess it is a good outcome that at 5500:1 could send their entire post
tax profits to NBN Co. Anything better (for the consumers) than that then
Korda Mentha will be paying them a visit.

Even if you run the numbers of ADSL 2+ speeds:
50:1 = 161 million a year
100:1 = 80 million a year
(says they spend $30mil on dark fibre and peering costs so I'll give you a
free kick by deducting the full $30million from the above when you make it
balance).

I guess seeing as I think both parties are retarded means I am partisan.

David.

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On 16 December 2013 13:23, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh that’s just a pathetic attempt at a comeback.
>
>
>
> So the contention ratio is 3000:1 for $6.66, which is what the original
> document thought was reasonable. Larger ISPs will have more CVCs to spread
> the load over.
>
>
>
> Halve it to 1500:1 and the cost will be $13.32. I think people would still
> pay that for access to a 1Gbps connection with an upgrade path to 10Gbps.
>
>
>
> Halve it again to 750:1 and the cost will be $26.64. I think people would
> be happy to pay that for a decent 1Gbps connection with an upgrade path to
> 10Gbps.
>
>
>
> Halve it again to 375:1 and the cost will be $53.28. So it costs $50 more
> to get access to 1Gbps on a lower contention ratio line with an upgrade
> path to 10Gbps.
>
>
>
> But now we have nothing but “what we’ve already got” for the next 20
> years, with no upgrade path, but at a price tag of $50 billion dollars?
>
>
>
> Talk about a bunch of economic incompetents. This is nothing but economic
> vandalism.
>
>
>
> Thanks for that David. Thanks for suggesting to people that there was an
> alternative in the Liberal plan when there was none. Thanks for being a
> party to the damage it’s going to do to our country by not having a decent
> upgrade path for 20 years. I sure hope your blind one-eyed support was
> worth it.
>
>
>
> T.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Monday, 16 December 2013 1:19 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
>
>
>
> On 16 December 2013 09:01, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And why are you still ranting on about CVC. Most of us would have been
> happy to pay the extra $6.66 CVC fee to get a 1Gbps connection thanks.
>
>
>
> Yeah at 3000:1 contention ratio FTW (i.e 1/3 of a mbps per customer
> committed information rate per customer) ... which works out worse than
> ADSL2+
>
>
>
> If 3000 people on your POI turn their IPTV on at once - you're stuffed.
>
>
>
> David.
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>

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