has any one used the J9 virtual machine from IBM .. how is it compared to
the KVM from SUN  any  advice on what to go with  is very much appreciated


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom McCormick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:11 AM
To: Palm Developer Forum
Subject: RE: Palm PDA - Market Share ???


$15 for VB and VC???? Maybe in the UK, but not in the US. Full versions of
those products are $480 each. Additionally, back when it was called Win CE
(I don't know if this is still true - perhaps that's what you can get for
$15), you still had to get the add-ons for those products to write Win CE
programs (additional $), and they only ran on a Windows NT box (another
investment if you didn't happen to have one). $300 for a polished and
complete IDE is a good deal by US standards.

(Please let me know if you can really get a compiler for $15 in the UK -
Thanks)

Thomas McCormick
Centennial Technologies
7 Lopez Road
Wilmington, MA 01887
Phone: (978) 805-2147
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Logie Urquhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Monday, September 18, 2000 9:53 AM
                To:     Palm Developer Forum
                Subject:        RE: Palm PDA - Market Share ???

                > 2.) Yeah, from real high to kinda high. Personally, I
cannot 
                > justify $500+
                > for a PDA.

                In the UK price for IIIc ~ �300, price for iPaq ~ �420, is
�120 worth the
                extra CPU speed, sound, and 32mb RAM (compare to 8mb on
IIIc).

                IMHO Yes I think the iPaq is well worth the price.

                You also have to consider the price of the dev. tools. MS
are saying you get
                the version of VB and VC++ for the price of the CD ($15).
While the palm
                "offical" dev tool (Code warrior) costs $300+.

                You can get the GCC compiler, but the version I use (links
from
                www.vfdide.com) seems to be very difficult to set up, as I
only have a Palm
                III, and need to use the older SDK.

                 
                > 3.) Whose demands? Where are these posted? IMHO, Palm has 
                > been incredibly
                > responsive in supplying what people really demand as
compared to what
                > marketing surveys have indicated. In the past, Palm
supplied 
                > a black and
                > white PDA and reduced power CPU with Graffiti when the
market was
                > "demanding" a high powered color PDA with true handwriting

                > recognition. 

                BTW The iPaq Pocket PC OS uses a handwritting system very
similer to that on
                the Palm. I was able to enter data in to a HP machine
(running same OS) with
                no problems at all.


                Logie

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