At 08:56 AM -0700 06/23/2003, Bruce Johnson wrote:
I concur. We were blackholed once buy one of these folks because some open relays were found in the arizona.edu domain, so huge swaths of the domain were blackholed.
Entirely unacceptable. Fortunately it was lifted within hours and most sites were accepting mail again within 24, but it was a huge disruption.
I guess "unacceptable" is relative. It depends on which side of the spam flood you reside.
If companies/ISPs/EDUs would properly police their own networks and eliminate the open relays and such in a timely fashion, there would be no need for the blacklists.
But since they can't be bothered, I say: go for it. Give 'em that single courtesy email then blacklist away! If it inconveniences a few of that company's customers, so be it! Maybe they'll rise up and burn the lazy admins at the stake.
Ahem...the machines doing this were NOT systems run by admins, but by people setting up poorly configured Linux boxes on a campus with over 20,000 systems on line.
Like all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows systems with infected IIS servers because the people setting up the machines don't even know that they have IIS running.
Your solution is as if someone on your block were a thief, and to solve the problem the authorities allowed various vigilante gangs to throw everyone on the block in jail.
Prove you're not a thief and they'll let you out...if they feel like it.
I've had this same e-mail address for nearly ten years, been all over the net, and I get roughly 15 spams sent to me daily.
I don't post with my e-mail address showing in Web forums, I don't even bother with usenet anymore, I don't reply to 'take me off this spam list' links and I don't put my e-mail in a web form unless I have to.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] may be getting a lot of spam, but I'm not.
You on the other hand, are on comcast which doesn't give a rats ass about it's customers, and probably sells it's user list.
How do I know this? Because I know people who've gotten comcast broadband service, have NEVER used their comcast e-mail address (using their pharmacy e-mail instead) *anywhere* and been notified some months later by comcast that their inbox was full.
Why yes it was, full of spam.
How did this address get out for the spammers to use?
So don't blame the .edu sites, blame your isp.
-- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group
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