For the error reporting, you have to go to the Windows Update
site and look at 'installation history' and see if it's listed.
If you *are* getting the MS IE error reporting window, you (or
something) had to install it from the WU site.  There should be
an option there to remove it or uninstall.  If not, someone else
will have to tell you how to disable it.  I'm sure there's a
registry key that can be deleted or modified to ax it.  If your
or others reading this that it cannot be disabled once its'
installed, just don't send the reports anymore, but you'll still
have to deal with that annoying window and probably the error
condition (or other errors) as well.

Well that all makes sense, since like I said NS & IE use
different Java versions, and NS happens to use Sun.  What are
these links?  It would be a good idea to let others check these
pages and see what happens with them.  If others have the problem
then we'll know it's a Java compatibility problem.  MS has had
several updates to their Java VM, so you may need these in order
to use the MS VM.  If you already have them installed, then it
could be one of the VM updates that is CAUSING the problem.

NS 3.x probably doesn't support much.  Why not install NS 4.8 on
it?  Are you having these problems while using NS 3.08 at these
sites?
-Clint

God Bless Us All
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com �

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Clint,

Will discuss each part as presented:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> First, remove/disable "error reporting".  It can not only
> actually CAUSE errors, but you sure don't want your personal
info
> sent back to MS.  Contrary to what they claim, 'personal
> sensitive information' IS sent back to them, and they couldn't
> care less about the errors you're getting.  Proof of that is
the
> same errors are occurring even after years have elapsed.  I had
> them continuously on '98 every since IE 5.01 SP2.  Same thing
on
> ME with IE6.  The last stable GOOD MS browser was IE 5.01 SP1.
> After that (with SP2) is when the problems broke loose.  I
> haven't had any YET on XP.

Where is "error reporting" - I just checked internet options and
dont
see it there. Is this something in IE itself or what???


> Since you don't give any specifics on the error message (and
you
> need to post them if this email is no help, and post your OS);
> you could try the IE repair tool, but I've never had any luck
> with it.  Since you mention a Netscape page, you know their
pages
> are not only optimized for NS, but they probably purposely do
> things so IE won't work with them!  NS uses a different Java
type
> than IE.

Unfortunately, it is a white box that says that Internet Explorer
has
experienced an error condition and needs to shut down. It has a
box to
let you restart IE, as well as 2 other boxes at the bottom - one
to send
an error report and one to just quit without sending an error
report.

I am using 98SE currently on this system.

I went back from IE6 to IE5.5, so would have thought that might
solve
this problem, since had it quite often with 6 - 5.5 is just as
bad it
would seem these days.

This problem really started when I was getting messages dealing
with the
VM - tried to redownload and could not ever do so. So I HAD to
get the
Java machine from Sun's web site, like it or not. The basicly
stopped
getting the constant message I was getting from IE about problems
running Java pages but I have getting this problem since.

I never had a problem with running anything from Netscape's site
or any
other until this idiotic problem with Java started showing up.
And it
turns out, a friend of mine got the same exact problem with IE on
his
system as well - the only way to stop the problem, since he
likewise
could not get the JVM from MSs site and get it to work, was to
get the
Java Machine from Sun's site.

> You also mention something that sounds like ad popups.  NS is
> known for those.  You should be using a popup stopper to put
and
> end to them, but note that the PU stoppers can and will block
> needed PU windows at times.  PopUp Stopper Pro for example (as
> I'm sure others) have a button where you can "allow popups from
> this domain", so if the PU's are from another source (and they
> probably are, from places like ad.click, humanclick,
> ad.banner.whatever, etc) you can probably block those.

Actually, this is not a popup - every so many minutes, the game
location
gives way to an ad from some sponsor that sponsor's the games on
NSs
site, and after 40 seconds, no matter what the ad, the ad goes
away and
a game starts up again.

> If after running the IE repair tool that doesn't help (and it
> probably won't), I'd suggest installing Netscape to use at
their
> sites.  It's no problem having both browsers on the same PC; I
> have 3 installed to check all my webpages in the different
> browsers.  Try and find NS 4.8, since NS 7 is pretty buggy and
> still won't handle many things correctly.

Since I have had multiple versions of email as well as browser
programs
for quite some times on various systems, I know that will work.

I was just hoping to just use my old version of Netscape
Navigator 3.08G
as well as IE on this system, since my new one will have both old
and
newer versions of NS as well as IE - just did not want to deal
with some
of those issues right now.

BUT, since I have not been able, due to health issues, finally
get the
new system completely setup yet, looks like the simpliest answer
right
now to install 4.79 and use that.

> It could be an "update thing" with IE.  Most of the MS updates
> I'm finding out more and more, CAUSE numerous problems.  Don't
> EVER install ANY of them without FIRST clicking the "read more"
> links to determine if you POSITIVELY need them.  It could be an
> update you HAVE installed that is causing the problems, OR, you
> might NEED an update that will fix the problems.  Find out what
> IE updates you can UNinstall, and remove them, then check the
> problem again.  If the problem is still there, install those
> again and see if there is any other updates you need.  Install
> them ONLY if you DEFINITELY need them, and ONLY one at a time,
> creating a restore point for EACH (on ME or XP).  (Since you
> mention IE 5.5, I assume you can't have XP installed since I
> think it's IE6 out the box).  IE problems are pretty hard to
pin
> down, and even harder at times to fix.  You may have to remove
> all aspects of IE and go back to the default IE installed by
your
> OS CD, then go straight to IE6, and heed the update warnings I
> mentioned again.

You sure are right on that one Clint - after all I have read on
MSs
whole approach to the whole update idea, am getting to really
dislike
them more and more these days.

Sill wish I could figure out what in the world was the original
problem
with the JVM that I and others have had problems with that
started this
whole mess anyway.

Ralph
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