On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Have you read all the crap that one must consider and go through to get the
> 5n to work while using auto focus. Suggestions included holding the camera
> at an angle, focusing on something else in a similar location, using faster
> lenses because of lighting conditions quickly come to mind.  With all the
> MF cameras I've used, I point, I focus, I snap the shutter.  I've not had
> to adapt my shooting style or technique to the camera.  The camera responds
> as I desire, when I desire.  There's a more seamless integration of
> photographer and camera.

A *few* comments here:

- For most things in life, 90% of the problems come from 10% of the
   situations. [Oh shit, I know what this will end up...]

- The AF works in *most* circumstances. It fails where your eye might
   fail too, and in that case you can at least hold at an angle; what
   will you do with MF? Moreover, with compatible flashes, (OK, within
   a reasonable distance) it autofocuses in *extreme* lack of light.
   Have you tried to MF a 5.6 lens? How well do you focus your M75-150
   at 150 (particularly with a split finder)?

- With the -5n you can most times point and snap the shutter; forget
   focus.

- You can always MF with an AF camera. You don't have to adapt
   anything to this camera; even the shutter speed is where you like it
   (and of course lacks bloody half-stops as a result; look at the pain
   we suffer for you :-))))))

Put our comments behind and try it in real situations Shel, you will 
like this camera.

> What has been interesting for me is that the more automated a cameras has
> become, the more information it provides and the more features it offers,
> the more it gets in the way of my seeing and photographing the scene.  The
> simpler, older cameras, that provide no information in the finder, and
> essentially mind their own business, are, for more, easier tools to
> operate.  My favorite cameras have no automation, no suggestions or
> information in the viewfinder, make no decisions.  The Leica M2, M3, M4,
> the Pentax KM (with meter inactive), and the MX (also with meter inactive)
> are my favorite cameras.  There is nothing that I have to adapt to.  The
> cameras are essentially benign, neutral, in my hands.  There's no concern
> about turning them on or turning them off, or if the light is right for a
> shot, or of the camera deciding whether or not a shot can be taken.

Simple to achieve all of that on the -5n; all VF info is *out* of the 
way. And it winds and brackets on its own.

> Maybe others need or want to rely more upon the modes and features and
> computers in their cameras, but if I have to work to overcome the
> limitations of certain features in order to use them, what's the point of
> having them in the first place?

How do you shoot the Sony?

> off the feature and shoot manually.  And if I'm gonna do that, why bother
> with an auto focus camera in the first place.

I have answered this above. Add the fact that metering has evolved 
over the years; if you want to benefit from that you need a newer 
camera. I know better than mention flash to you :-)

Kostas

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