Being a West Australian & having driven in the States & Canada I'll
add that W.A. drivers are all idiots.

Me included.

That said, our cyclists aren't much better. It's scary how many
cyclists I pass on the way home from work each night who wear all
black & don't have a rear light fitted (but have a front light??)

Cheers,

Dave

2008/9/23 frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article (with which I agree) about the
>> paradoxical dangers arising from our safety culture:
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/19/transport.transpor
>> t
>>
>> Interesting quote: "All vehicles are people in disguise, negotiating
>> the use of common space with each other. They must never be induced to
>> delegate that obligation to signs and machines. They certainly must
>> not think themselves safer than others, or they will behave with less
>> consideration for others as a result."
>>
>> Bob
>
> I don't buy it.
>
> There may be a cause-and-effect relationship between the wearing of
> helmets and accidents, but which way does it go?  Does the helmet make
> us more cavalier, or will the cyclist who takes more chances tend to
> wear a helmet?
>
> As far as the Netherlands (a non-helmet-wearing bike society) versus
> Australia (where helmets are law), I would submit that it's specious
> to isolate one element and claim (or at least imply) that's the reason
> for differing accident rates.  Surely there are other differences
> between the Dutch and the Aussies that might contribute!
>
> I could go on, but I would think that there is such a complicated
> relationship between helmet wearing and accident rates that I'd be
> loathe to say that one's safer without a helmet.
>
> I think that what it comes down to is it should be a personal choice.
> I choose to wear one.  I don't think that my riding changes
> significantly with or without my helmet (but I could be wrong).  I've
> had enough accidents from which I suffered significant injuries to the
> rest of my body that I really prefer not having accidents - helmet or
> not.  The flip side of that is when I broke my collarbone my head hit
> the pavement pretty hard - I'd have suffered at least a serious
> concussion without the skid lid.
>
> I don't criticize anyone for not wearing one.  I especially don't
> criticize Elle for not wearing one, because she's quite beautiful.  I
> know that's not a good reason for not criticizing her, but there you
> go...
>
> ;-)

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