>
> I know what it's about, yeah it's about selling shit, targeted
> advertising and then covering their asses ("Sir, you checked off the
> permission box. You really should have read all 38 paragraphs before
> you clicked 'download this app'.")
>
> I don't have anything to hide from Google and I'm not paranoid.
>
> Much.
>
I agree with you, and I do as little as possible to cooperate with this sort
of thing. The "I don't have anything to hide" argument is the one They use
to increase the amount of snooping into our lives that They do, but of
course the argument is a poor one (as you doubtless know) on many levels.
Not least of which is that They are building the infrastructure of a police
state on the back of it, so that even if They themselves are as benign and
harmless as They say, the apparatus is all there and in place if They all of
a sudden turn malign, or if Kim Sung-On, or China, or the Saudi royal family
suddenly take over. In addition, of course, there is the frog on a radiator
effect.
B
> I guess that I simply resent that the technology exists. The fact that
> Google openly uses it means that someone is covertly doing so. They may
> have bought the damned programme from Google, hired a former Google
> employee to make it for them, reverse engineered it somehow or maybe
> just got the idea from Google.
>
> Whatever the case may be, I resent that Google makes money this way and
> don't want to be a part of it any more than I no doubt already am
> (without my consent or knowledge).
>
> Orwell got it wrong. Big Brother isn't The Government it's Big
> Business. They control more of our lives in more ways than he ever
> imagined they could in 1984.
>
> So that's why I'm not downloading the Google+ app for my phone. I know
> I'm probably just pissing into the wind but it's not supposed to be
> healthy to hold it in...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: John Sessoms <[email protected]>
> Sent: December 27, 2011 12/27/11
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Bad news for Frank
>
> From: "Bob W"
>
> >> He doesn't worry me. In fact I'm probably the reason he needs two
> >> knarfs.
> >>
> >> I almost downloaded the Google+ app for my android, until I read
> >> the permissions. I stopped at the one where I give the app
> >> permission to track my phone calls, including who I call and for
> >> how long.
> >>
> > it's vitally important that they know this sort of thing, so they can
> > sell you and your friends more useless shit.
>
>
> It's just CYA stuff put in there by the lawyers, intended to head off
> any hypothetical future lawsuits.
>
> How would Google+ know when you want to post something if they don't
> "monitor" your phone activity? Do they listen in and steal your trade
> secrets and shit like that? Or do they just check the headers to see if
> it's meant for them and discard what isn't?
>
> Google+ don't care who you talk to. All they care about is whether
> something you're doing on your phone is meant to go on your Google+ ...
> and not getting sued for any of the technical crap they have to do to
> make that possible.
>
> And "Big Brother" ain't gonna' ask you to agree to TOS. When they want
> to track your phone calls to find out who you're talking to - or read
> your email; monitor the websites you visit; check up who your friends
> are on Facebook - they got their own secret court with their own secret
> judge to give them their own secret warrant for the wiretap
> surveillance.
>
> Canada does it, the UK does it and the US does it - the only difference
> being the US can get the warrant AFTER they've already done the
> wiretap.
> I don't think Canada or the UK have to.
>
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