On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:49 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Paul, the boogie man will probably never show up at your door. Mine neither. > > And yes, some of the things my android (powered by Google) can do for me are > nothing short of miraculous. > > That doesn't mean I want information about me floating around out there to be > used by anyone who gets their hands on it. That's why I turn off my gps when > I'm not using it.
As far as I know, the GPS is always on, but it's only seen by you when the relevant software is being used. Could be wrong abut that, but I can't imagine whey the phone would switch it off. > That's why I never give out my credit card info on the phone (especially my > cell) or by e-mail. > > To say "well, my smartphone does so many good things that I don't mind that > some large faceless unaccountable organization has personal information about > me that I didn't even know about," rather ignores the fact that you don't > know what they know about you, what they're doing with that information and > what may happen if that information gets into the wrong hands. > > Here are some not-so-fetched possibilities: my phone (and probably yours) can > be used as a video phone. A lens facing me videos me while I talk. Could > Google (or someone else) access that image remotely to put my photo in their > file? Could my fingerprints be sent off for the same purposes? I ~have~ to > touch the screen to operate this device, right? > > So now someone has my face and fingerprints on file. What's next? > > Is it paranoid to be careful about what personal information goes out there? > We had just a glimpse of what can happen after 9/11. Imagine what Joe > McCarthy could have done with present-day technology. > > Google (and many other organizations no doubt) already know more about me > than I'm comfortable with and I'll be damned if I'm going to make it easy for > them to find out more. > > Cheers, > frank > > > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> > Sent: December 28, 2011 12/28/11 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Bad news for Frank > > > Google already knows where you are and what you do since you have their > phone. Joining Google+ doesn't change that one bit. It just lets you see the > list guy's photos -- and lots of other good ones as well. Google knows where > you are because their GPS monitors your actions. I have an android phone as > well and find that to be a good thing. When I want to drive to Burlngton, > Iowa, Google can tell me exactly how to do that because they know where I am. > When Grace wants to go to McDonalds, I can find the closest one, because > Google knows where I am. They boogey man has yet to show up on my doorstep. > > Paul >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: John Sessoms <[email protected]> >> Sent: December 27, 2011 12/27/11 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Bad news for Frank >> >> From: "Bob W" >> >>>> He doesn't worry me. In fact I'm probably the reason he needs two >>>> knarfs. >>>> >>>> I almost downloaded the Google+ app for my android, until I read >>>> the permissions. I stopped at the one where I give the app >>>> permission to track my phone calls, including who I call and for >>>> how long. >>>> >>> it's vitally important that they know this sort of thing, so they can >>> sell you and your friends more useless shit. >> >> >> It's just CYA stuff put in there by the lawyers, intended to head off >> any hypothetical future lawsuits. >> >> How would Google+ know when you want to post something if they don't >> "monitor" your phone activity? Do they listen in and steal your trade >> secrets and shit like that? Or do they just check the headers to see if >> it's meant for them and discard what isn't? >> >> Google+ don't care who you talk to. All they care about is whether >> something you're doing on your phone is meant to go on your Google+ ... >> and not getting sued for any of the technical crap they have to do to >> make that possible. >> >> And "Big Brother" ain't gonna' ask you to agree to TOS. When they want >> to track your phone calls to find out who you're talking to - or read >> your email; monitor the websites you visit; check up who your friends >> are on Facebook - they got their own secret court with their own secret >> judge to give them their own secret warrant for the wiretap surveillance. >> >> Canada does it, the UK does it and the US does it - the only difference >> being the US can get the warrant AFTER they've already done the wiretap. >> I don't think Canada or the UK have to. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
