On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> I know what it's about, yeah it's about selling shit, targeted advertising 
> and then covering their asses ("Sir, you checked off the permission box. You 
> really should have read all 38 paragraphs before you clicked 'download this 
> app'.")
> 
> I don't have anything to hide from Google and I'm not paranoid.
> 
> Much.
> 
> I guess that I simply resent that the technology exists. The fact that Google 
> openly uses it means that someone is covertly doing so. They may have bought 
> the damned programme from Google, hired a former Google employee to make it 
> for them, reverse engineered it somehow or maybe just got the idea from 
> Google. 
> 
> Whatever the case may be, I resent that Google makes money this way and don't 
> want to be a part of it any more than I no doubt already am (without my 
> consent or knowledge).
> 
> Orwell got it wrong. Big Brother isn't The Government it's Big Business. They 
> control more of our lives in more ways than he ever imagined they could in 
> 1984.
> 
> So that's why I'm not downloading the Google+ app for my phone. I know I'm 
> probably just pissing into the wind but it's not supposed to be healthy to 
> hold it in...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Google already knows where you are and what you do since you have their phone. 
Joining Google+ doesn't change that one bit. It just lets you see the list 
guy's photos -- and lots of other good ones as well.  Google knows where you 
are because their GPS monitors your actions. I have an android phone as well 
and find that to be a good thing. When I want to drive to Burlngton, Iowa, 
Google can tell me exactly how to do that because they know where I am. When 
Grace wants to go to McDonalds, I can find the closest one, because Google 
knows where I am. They boogey man has yet to show up on my doorstep.

Paul
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: John Sessoms <[email protected]>
> Sent: December 27, 2011 12/27/11
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Bad news for Frank
> 
> From: "Bob W"
> 
>>> He doesn't worry me. In fact I'm probably the reason he needs two
>>> knarfs.
>>> 
>>> I almost downloaded the Google+ app for my android, until I read
>>> the permissions. I stopped at the one where I give the app
>>> permission to track my phone calls, including who I call and for
>>> how long.
>>> 
>> it's vitally important that they know this sort of thing, so they can
>> sell you and your friends more useless shit.
> 
> 
> It's just CYA stuff put in there by the lawyers, intended to head off 
> any hypothetical future lawsuits.
> 
> How would Google+ know when you want to post something if they don't 
> "monitor" your phone activity? Do they listen in and steal your trade 
> secrets and shit like that? Or do they just check the headers to see if 
> it's meant for them and discard what isn't?
> 
> Google+ don't care who you talk to. All they care about is whether 
> something you're doing on your phone is meant to go on your Google+ ... 
> and not getting sued for any of the technical crap they have to do to 
> make that possible.
> 
> And "Big Brother" ain't gonna' ask you to agree to TOS. When they want 
> to track your phone calls to find out who you're talking to - or read 
> your email; monitor the websites you visit; check up who your friends 
> are on Facebook - they got their own secret court with their own secret 
> judge to give them their own secret warrant for the wiretap surveillance.
> 
> Canada does it, the UK does it and the US does it - the only difference 
> being the US can get the warrant AFTER they've already done the wiretap. 
> I don't think Canada or the UK have to.
> 
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