Indeed. M42 takumars are being bought by the score too. That's been my
real problem with k-mount: the lack of affordable used wide angle
primes which are indeed in extremely short supply driving prices
through the roof. Everyone from nex owners to m4/3 shooters are buying
pentax glass because the secret is out about how quality and
relatively affordable it is. Seems like everyone knows that the M
series is pretty spectacular too. That used to be the least desirable
series with K and A winning out.....

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:16 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:
> The lack of used lenses, especially wide angle primes could point to there
> being a robust market for Pentax DSLRs.  There was a time not too long ago,
> when there were always a number of A and FA 20mm lenses moving through KEH,
> now not so much.  It's hard to find any 24mm and wider A  or later lenses,
> (or fast 35mm and 28mm A, F and FA), lenses on KEH now. They seem to be
> snapped up as soon as they arrive.  A lot of Pentax's more esoteric and well
> thought of glass is in great demand by knowledgeable users of systems of
> every stripe, from Canon DSLR's to pretty much every mirrorless system.
> Pentax's decision in retaining the relatively long flange to film plane
> distance from the original M42 lens mount makes adapting those lenses
> relatively easy.  The K mount was a wide opening for it's era, but both
> Canon's and Minolta's allow an adapter that easily mounts a K mount lens at
> the proper registration distance.  Unlike most other DSLR users not only are
> Pentax users competing with each other for the best glass ever designed for
> our lens mount, we're competing with with everybody else.
>
>
>
> On 7/17/2013 7:14 PM, Mark C wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Rick Womer <[email protected]>
>>
>>>> Notice the trend of so many to say what they have is 'good enough'?
>>>> Pentax loses. Notice the trend of so many to wait a year or more until
>>>> there's massive price cuts on the newest model Pentax camera? Pentax
>>>> loses. Notice the trend of so many to purchase used gear as opposed to
>>>> new? Pentax loses. Then there's those that put there money elsewhere
>>>> because they're not getting what they want from Pentax. Pentax loses.
>>>> There's nothing wrong with any of those actions and all are
>>>> justifiable. Still - Pentax loses.
>>>>
>> IMO - every other camera manufacturer has to deal with those exact same
>> issues, and to be honest I don't think that they are limiting factors. I
>> just checked on ebay - there are over twice as many used Nikon and Canon
>> lenses there then Pentax. I didn't check bodies but I assume there are a lot
>> more used DSLR's of those brands simply because there has been a more active
>> upgrade path. The more people upgrade the more used bodies there are for the
>> bargain hunters. And Pentax (sadly) does not have to deal with the "problem"
>> of Sigma, Tamron, and TOkina making lenses that compete with them - though I
>> wish Sigma would kick out a few of their macro lenses in the K Mount.
>>
>> A robust used market is the sign of a healthy brand, IMO. But a brand that
>> tries to live off its used market is in trouble. Back in the 90's the
>> buzzword with Pentax was that there was this huge vast reserve of used
>> lenses and since there was great backwards compatibility with Pentax you
>> could tap into those old lenses. It was a bargain hunter's brand.  It was a
>> great argument at the time given that Canon and Nikon had respectively
>> scrapped or significantly modified their lens mount  a few years earlier.
>> And even though I supect that at this very moment some dim-witted blogger
>> cum photo gear reviewer is repeating that line about Pentax, Pentax's legacy
>> glass advantage has largely faded. Canon and Nikon have a couple decades of
>> used gear compatible with their systems now, and their used market is better
>> than Pentax's, and if you are a bargain hunter you would be better off
>> trolling in their waters and not Pentax's.
>>
>> I don't know how the Pentax brand will be resurrected but I keep hoping
>> that Ricoh has a plan...
>>
>> Mark
>>
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